F-14A/B at 11.7/12.0 is too OP

Iran did upgrade their F-4E fleet with a chinese built radar and a few other electronic upgrades

*Laughs in funny indigenous F-5 with two funny vertical stabilizers and wing tip R-73s *
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Iran tends to be funny with what they make, and upgrade. I have no doubt in my mind they would have upgraded all their F-14s if they had more R-73s and R-27s at their disposal.

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The problem is that IRIAFs are stuck in early Gen 4 and cannot implement Gen 4.5 or later aircraft equivalent to the F-18E, F-16C, or JAS39. HESA Saeqeh is unique for sure, but its performance will still be quite close to the F-5E.

I don’t know about ground units but, it would be almost impossible to implement air TT.

I don’t know if the R-73 was ever actually tested, but they actually made an effort to be able to launch the R-27R from the F-14A, but it seems that they couldn’t solve the compatibility issue between the AWG-9 and the R-27R, so it can’t be launched.

Also, it is really questionable that they has huge issues to get R-27s and R-73s since they already have some russian aircrafts such as MiG-29A.

It would make more sense to model the F-14A shortly after it was delivered to the IIAF in 1970s than the IRIAF F-14AM, for which there is not much reliable documentation.

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The air TT is probably the biggest problem, but it could possibly be solved with the implementation of a few subtrees on the full tech tree arrival. Not the most favorable solution, but probably the best.

It’s got a pretty large and goated lineup of possibilities, with tons of indigenous stuff. You should really check out the suggestion for it, it’s quite a good looking potential addition.
Here’s a link if you wanna check it out (they got the M1A1 from wish and the off brand T-90M that they copied and made their own lmfao):

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The f-14b should be 12.7 but get access aim9m which were in service before the jet was produced. It should not be 13.0 because it has a worse radar than other 13.0 jets. By worse I mean it only has access to head on PD, so you cannot use PD radar to lock enemy targets from behind like all other 13.0 jets.

I have no problem with the f-14a at 11.7 with its current engine power, and loadouts.

That’s what the F-14D should be.

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The best that will happen is a camouflage for the Iran F-14 being added for the A. The F-14 should not be added to any other tech tree, and having two F-14A’s in one tech tree wouldn’t make any sense.

The F-14D has a better radar than the F-14B, it should be the one at 13.0.

It could but only in the case where they had wanted to avoid having both Good A2G ordnance and the better T/W FM since the F-14A could also receive most of the PGMs (and the AGM-53 as well) that the -14B could outside the JDAMs which aren’t even modeled.

But seeing as they have, there really isn’t too much of a point anymore.

I guess maybe F-14B (1991) new aircraft premium pre-order pack after F-20A Tigershark because engine, radar and Air-to-Air armament like F-14B but before bombcat upgraded

F-14B(U) ?

Modified F-14B from USA tech tree upgraded avionics & armament similar to F-14D or seperate fighter aircraft in folder with F-14B ?

S530D* 2+Magic2* 2 = AIM7F* 6+AIM9H* 2, is this your equation?

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these people are nuts, some of them are convinced 2xR-73 is equal to 6xAIM-54A

Problem is insane flight models and x2 Magic II.

Current Magics are one of best IR missiles in the game also, in most cases, one or two kills are guaranteed per match.

It outturns almost everythings on flat turning and, in dueling situation, some 12.0 jets has no ways for winning against M2K.

The F-16A can kill the M2K with vertical maneuvers, but in random battles, you will eat Magic II.

You missed x2 or x4 54s.

Nobody bring x6 54s unless that F14 players are dumb.

Also, 54s are still easy to dodge if you are on MiG21bison which has x2 R73s and x2 R27s.

They are just annoying.

easy to dodge missile wont have this KDA every match in the first minute,
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“easy to dodge” is only applied for russian missile and non PD radar, like R60 R60M R73 because how shit it is against flare

but well, since you said “AIM 54 is easy to dodge” i doubt you have the common sense to understand why AIM 54 is not easy to dodge

Huh? It’s literally among the easiest radar missiles to dodge excluding some early Fox-1s.

Performance of phoenix entirely depends on your enemy’s knowledge and ability to do evasive maneuvers.

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cool story, but practically it still OP
your explanation and argument dont magically makes it less effective nor reduce it’s usual success rate
it is only become “easy to dodge” when factually become easy to dodge, mean less success rate per 6 launch
not when you say it is

This happens when F-14 lands in lobby of base bombers flying straight and not paying attention. You literally notch for 5sec,drop some chaff and you never get hit by Phoenix.

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i notch for a minute while releasing chaff all the way and still get hit by phoenix, you can yapping all you want but that’s what happened, your argument wont magically undo that

the only 2 way to dodge phoenix is to outmanuver it and it miss or just get behind hill for a relatively long time because IOG is really irritating

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So basically it is op because of massive skill issue.

Cool story, let them suffer until they learn not to fly straight, especially those wallet warriors.

Touched a nerve didnt i? Too bad i couldnt care less.