F-14A/B at 11.7/12.0 is too OP

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@Panther2995

It appears you dont even understand what you’re reading.

I clearly stated that you need to prove those sub trees that belongs to those nations didnt used those vehicles.

Hungarian did used Soviet vehicles which is a sub tree that belongs to Italy.

Indıa used Soviet vehicles which is a nation that placed in UK tree.

And last but not least Finland used Soviet vehicles which is a nation that is placed in Sweden Tech tree.

I like how you write as you are the authority that decides which of those nations “belong” to other nations.

Maybe it was you that decided that Hungary “belongs” to Italy?

Maybe it was you that decided that India “belongs” to UK?

Maybe it was you that decided that Finland “belongs” to Sweden?

Maybe it was you that decided that Switzerland and Argentina “belong” to Germany?

Maybe it was you that decided that Iran “belongs” to US?

Next time read properly before making replies…

I know what I’m writing.

If adding Iranian vehicles to US can proceed without and consideration of current relations between those nations and their players, then USSR tech tree should get Ukrainian Abrams, Leopard, Challenger,…

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@Dragon_Storm_246

Nah its Definitely valid

Just because you think so, doesn’t make it true.

@Dragon_Storm_246

Just stop crying and grind the US tech tree if you want US vehicles. Its not rocket science. And if it takes you 4 years to grind 1 tech tree than thats just a skill issue at this point.

This has nothing to do with me, so your personal attacks are pointless. But it is common for people like you to go for personal attacks when they lack arguments.

Here we are taking about adding a third F-14 (and the one that is so similar to an existing one, that they added R-27 to it, so it could be differentiated) to what is already the biggest Air Tech Tree in the game.

It simply couldn’t go to some other tech tree that needed it (such as China, France,…). It had to go to one nation that had the least need of it.

[Panther2995]

@SturmovikSpecnaz

I like how you write as you are the authority that decides which of those nations “belong” to other nations.

It wasnt me who decided which nations should get or not but its also wasnt you who can be judge of that.

Gaijin has decided that those 3 nations will be part of Italy,Uk and Sweden, and whether like it or not those nations used Soviet equipments in real life.

No matter how many times you complain Gaijin simply doesnt care what you want, Iranian F-14 is the living proof for that.

I suggest cope with it.

[AlvisWisla]

A mid aircraft being added means USA is catered to?
So by your own argument USSR is catered to for getting Mig-29SMT.

[Panther2995]

@SturmovikSpecnaz

If adding Iranian vehicles to US can proceed without and consideration of current relations between those nations and their players, then USSR tech tree should get Ukrainian Abrams, Leopard, Challenger,…

Dont forget to add Su’s and
Mig’s,T90A/M,Pantsir and other vehicles to Us
Tech tree since USA also recieved them in real life.

Also dont forget to add T80U to Germany since they got their hands of that and decided to develop DM53 because of it.

But you will most likely cry if that happens.

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@Panther2995

It wasnt me who decided which nations should get

And you should remember that.

@Panther2995

but its also wasnt you who can be judge of that

Gaijin is a game company, and like all game companies, they can be praised or criticised by their playerbase.

Gaijin can do whatever they want with their game, but it doesn’t make them infallible or unquestionable.

@Panther2995

No matter how many times you complain Gaijin simply doesnt care what you want, Iranian F-14 is the living proof for that.

Same applies to you.

People in Gaijin may have little regard to the opinion of their customers, but the Forum exists for it’s customers to express their opinion.

And you are not the authority here to decide who is right and who is wrong.

How about you express your opinion with arguments in a calm fashion, instead of “go cope” or “go cry” statements?

Are you an adult?

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@Panther2995

Dont forget to add Su’s and
Mig’s,T90A/M,Pantsir and other vehicles to Us
Tech tree since USA also recieved them in real life.

Also dont forget to add T80U to Germany since they got their hands of that and decided to develop DM53 because of it.

But you will most likely cry if that happens.

All of this applies to all other nations in reverse.

Just as US got their hands on Soviet vehicles, Soviets got their hands on US vehicles too.

[Panther2995]

@SturmovikSpecnaz

Are you an adult?

Since im dealing with ignorant child i decided to speak with language that you will understand.

Anyway it seems that having conversation with you its just waste of time, have fun complaining about Iranian F-14 buddy.

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@Panther2995

Since im dealing with ignorant child i decided to speak with language that you will understand.

Even if your assessment was correct, your method reveals your immaturity.

Let me give you an advice.

When arguing with a child, you do not lower yourself to it’s level. Instead you remain calm and act as an adult.

The old wisdom applies here:

“Never argue with fools. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

That’s why I don’t reply to a multitude of posts that “AlvisWisla” has written, replying to my posts.

You at least offer some arguments and try to win by reasoning, most of the time.

All he ever did in this subject is throw personal insults, baseless statements and incorrect information.

Sometimes I wonder if he is a fool, or is he just pretending to be one?

@Panther2995

Anyway it seems that having conversation with you its just waste of time, have fun complaining about Iranian F-14 buddy.

I will do that.

Thank you very much.

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@Dragon_Storm_246

ITS A FUCKING US PLANE YOU RETARD. Holy shit, the only thing thats different is that it was “tested” with Russian missiles and it has its own Iranian built weaponry which all the information in that is full of propaganda. So just stop.

And here comes another immature individual.

The aircraft in question is Iranian, not US.

It was bought by Iran.

It was flown by Iran.

It was operated by Iran for a long time.

It was used by Iran in a war, and those Iranian F-14s had seen more combat then all US F-14s combined.

@Dragon_Storm_246

Your arguments are invalid

It is your judgement that is invalid.

If the aircraft manufacturer was the one that would receive it’s products, then we wouldn’t have:

• British made aircrafts in German, Italian, Swedish and Israeli tech trees.
• French made aircrafts in Israeli tech tree.
• Swedish made aircrafts in Italian and UK tech trees.
• Soviet made aircrafts in German, Swedish, Italian, UK and Chinese tech trees.

[Dragon_Storm_246]

So what you’re telling me is that Grumman is an Iranian aircraft company?

[J_ackal]

Could’ve just added it without any russian ordenance to avoid this whole shit tossing, but it’s gaijin after all

[kimpromo2]

I’m convinced they do it to get a good laugh over the community going at it.

[tripod2008]

@J_ackal

without any russian ordenance

They could also have added a basic Block -95 F-14A with prototype ordnance like the AIM-95 (Agile)/ AVG-8B (VTAS III), AGM-53 (Condor), AIM-152 (AAAM), HE Rocket warheads etc. and it would have been just as special.

[NestleKitkat]

@SturmovikSpecnaz

“LeT’s AdD iNdIaN vEhIcLeS tO uK tEcH tReE bEcAuSe It WaS bRiTiSh CoLoNy 100 YeArS aGo”

And they joined Commonwealth after Independence. 15 August 1947.

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@Dragon_Storm_246

So what you’re telling me is that Grumman is an Iranian aircraft company?

“So what you’re telling me is that Dassault is an Israeli aircraft company?”

“So what you’re telling me is that SAAB is an Italian aircraft company?”

“So what you’re telling me is that Mikoyan and Gurevich is an German/UK/Italian/Swedish/Chinese aircraft company?”

[SturmovikSpecnaz]

@J_ackal

Could’ve just added it without any russian ordenance to avoid this whole shit tossing, but it’s gaijin after all

They probably wanted to make this F-14 a bit more recognisable, considering how similar it is to existing aircraft in US tech tree.

For this reason alone, they never should have added it to US tech tree.

They should have given the F-14 to Japan trough 3rd series of the F-X program, rather then adding yet another F-14 to an already crowded US air tech tree.

@kimpromo2

I’m convinced they do it to get a good laugh over the community going at it.

That would be of no surprise.

@tripod2008

They could also have added a basic Block -95 F-14A with prototype ordnance like the AIM-95 (Agile)/ AVG-8B (VTAS III), AGM-53 (Condor), AIM-152 (AAAM), HE Rocket warheads etc. and it would have been just as special.

Or, they could have simply added F-14D, that US players were requesting for a long time.

Instead of giving Iranian aircraft to it’s mortal enemy.

[AlvisWisla]

@SturmovikSpecnaz

People in Gaijin may have little regard to the opinion of their customers, but the Forum exists for it’s customers to express their opinion.

The opinions of hypocrisy have no place in a game.

@SturmovikSpecnaz

Just as US got their hands on Soviet vehicles, Soviets got their hands on US vehicles too.

You mean trophies?

F-14 is not a captured trophy by the USSR.

[AUSChalkWarrior]

or it just goes into the tech tree that built the vehicle

[J_ackal]

I dont care or want more copy paste garbage