F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

Just be thankful that you can still use the AIM-7E in PD radar modes, the AWG-9 IRL couldn’t.

Note the Single AIM-7F entry in the Pulse-Doppler Row, where there is a second Sparrow (AIM-7F & -7E) for the Pulse entries.

I’m not personally going to report it, it also might well be rejected since the difference between Conical scanning and Mono-pulse Seekers is not implemented as a design choice, currently. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Gaijin puts the boot in since The F-14 is well the F-14 and hasn’t kept pace or been revisited.

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AIM-7E isn’t guided using the main radar.
It’s guided using the CW illuminator …

AIM-7F can be guided using either the main radar (PD signal) or CW illuminator.

It’s noted in the relevant “Weapons Capability” column as “AIM-7E(CW)” & “AIM-7F(CW)” in Pulse Radar mode, so that is probably taken into account.

It’s likely that the AWG-9 in a PD mode uses “PD-ILL” Mechanization to guide Sparrows which is why the -7E is not listed.

Relevant excerpts




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I don’t think there is any such thing as “Pulse Doppler Illuminator”.
It essentially refers to PD STT. Where the radar continuously illuminates/tracks the target using the main radar transmitter.

The reason why you see “PDILL” listed for F-16C/D is because they lack the CW illuminator (It was omitted as it was no longer needed with modern AIM-7 variants)…

F-14 does have a CW illuminator, so there’s no reason it can’t use it when in PD STT mode.

Don’t read into that table too much … The information is just poorly presented …

It’s not a physical component inherently (unless you count Flood and Null antennas, separately to the Waveguide of the FM-CW illuminator sub-assembly of early sparrows, that was coaxially mounted to the Antenna)

It’s referring to the use of a non continuous waveform to support missile guidance, it just so happens that the STT waveform is suitable for the relevant -6x & -7x series radars.

The issue is that the -7E requires a continuous waveform, and so cannot use it.

I’m sure that’s part of the Boresight mode mechanization to ensure that it guides sufficiently in all possible edge cases where it may be utalized.

Reduced range (vs PD-ILL), and telegraphing the Missile guidance illumination’s presence vs just that of the Radar tracking and so introduces tactical ambiguity.

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If the CW illuminator can be used in IR TRACK I don’t see why it wouldn’t be usable in regular PD STT.

The only thing I can think of is perhaps the powerful PD transmitter of AWG-9 would interfere with and “drown” the CW signal. Perhaps that’s why AIM-7E-4 existed and why the Iranians had to modify their AIM-7E-2s to install them on Tomcats.

The AIM-7E-3 had further improved fuzing and higher reliability, and the AIM-7E-4 was specially adapted for use with high-power fighter radars (like the F-14’s AN/AWG-9).

https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-7.html

The AIM-7E-4 was an E-3 modified by AWC-93, also called the ‘spillover modification’, to allow it to be used with early F-14A Tomcats. Its DPN-85 GCS was composed of the CW-646 radome, OA-8888(V)2 target seeker, OA-8886(V)1 flight control group, as well as the tunnel cable and waveguide.

AIM-7E-4 Components
Component/Nomenclature/Length/Weight/Remarks
Radome CW-646 19.24
Target Seeker OA-8888(V)2 23.63 CW
Flight Control OA-8886(V)1 37.39 150.8 weight for entire GCS
Wings (4) 595033 34.4 16.00-in span, 18.62-in chord
Warhead Mk 38 Mod 0 12.99 69.4 expanding rod
Rocket Motor Mk 38 or Mk 52 50.72 157.0 various Mods
Fins (4) MX-4421 12.0 12.0-in span, 18.50-in chord
Miscellaneous 5.1 waveguides and tunnel cable
All Up Round AIM-7E-4 143.97 428.7

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aim-7-sparrow.31904/

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Y’know what’s funny? 20 minutes before you said that, I was suspended for some (to put it very nicely) very odd reason for 2 days. If you want to know why just DM me, but yeah. Anyways, I’m back now. I just think it’s pretty ironic that I get censored while trying to ask about the F-14, but they don’t do the same for anyone else.

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It’s probably that you got suspended for having an alt account not that it has anything to do with f14

I think there either is a major bug with the F-14 or this is just a huge TWS bug, if you soft lock someone in TWS then release lock, the radar tilt will remain stuck looking at that previous spot whenever you break lock - this only matters if you have constant elevation of radar on.

Basically, if you lock someone with TWS then stop the soft lock, the radar will be stuck looking either up or down or wherever the bandit being locked was, this is unbearable in matches if you don’t use keybinds for radar vertical tilt.

Can someone test this as well, just in case this isn’t just me?

Edit: Never mind, this is a bug with all TWS capable radars in-game, I might submit a bug report on this later since this is a pretty massive issue from the looks of it.

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Nope. That wasn’t it.

whats difference that allows the FAKOUR 90 to pull 20gs compared to aim54A

Both should pull more, maybe 25G
It is 20G simply because Iranian Sedjil missile (from which the Fakour received the motor and guidance unit) pulls 20G.

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little poll i made so if yall could vote on it that be amazing im planning on using it to get mod action

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xkl5afnWEB6W

I already made a report on it and it got denied.

i tried again i guess we got to wait till next update

Inviting you guys along to my search for F-14 info:
https://www.youtube.com/@TomcatCockpitPOV
This channel is so good. If you love the Tomcat, binge this channel.

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Ironic given they just passed an AOA button change for the SU-30 based solely upon grainy photos of the cockpit, but a F-14 manual?

“Nah, we aren’t changing AOA stuff.”

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No no, you don’t get it. The feature is “in testing and has been added to some aircraft like the F-15 for testing purposes.” Only when the F-14’s is bug reported. Silly.

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