F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

Thought I’d bump this topic since I’ve added more info to my bug report, and no longer need to go the long way around and provide a design lineage bridge to the TISEO to the TCS prove functionality.

[DEV]The F-14B should be impacted by this change to IRST/EOTS

And that the report is still awaiting acceptance after 9 Days for a Dev server issue, which regrettably likely also make it to live.

Now resolved, classed as “not a bug” due to not having it’s independent search and track functionality implemented in game. As the referenced changes only impact aircraft that do. So no dice there.


Also as there is an existing report on the issue, anything further would be marked as a duplicate report, so we’re in effectively stuck in a Catch 22 waiting for the Dev’s to implement an existing feature to an airframe that they have forgotten about.

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No HPRF minimum range for F-14 radar
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Bigrv3MpYsuF

I finally found a footage showing that F-14A can detect and register signal returns from distances less than 5 km in TWS-Manual mode.

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F-14 2!15
F-14 2!20

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Sorry, all radars must be modeled to include Soviet flaws comrade.

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That is not a Soviet radar flaw. That is just a MiG-29 radar flaw that the Soviets knew how to fix in 1985 at the latest.

Incorrect HPRF minimum range for Russian Radar

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This is just actual suppression, they strike every genuine and valid report within days, but oh we can push the relatively recent bug report that nerfs the F-14’s loadouts, but only that one!

Someone in Gaijin genuinely despises the F-14, there’s just no way around it anymore. It’s heinous how no matter what we do, what source we provide, they will not listen.

^ There’s no way this got flagged. For what?

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Since the talk is about jamming etc.
I wonder what will happen when/ if they bring mechanics such as radar to radar interference.
A more powerful radar can be used to flood a weaker radar and blind it…It had a flood mode.
I have read the fact that it was very difficult to get a lock/shot when F-14s flooded them in excersises.
And here comes how strong AESAs/PESAs actually are… they are extremely difficult to get flooded.
In general i believe that radars in game should be used properly, not only as a target method. Now it’s just a targeting method. In reality having strong radar set can make a win or lose.

EDIT: i know i’m not describing it exactly how it is, technically.

This loadout is no longer possible in the new patch
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Also notice the sparrows cutting through the front phoenix pylon in this config

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That is what A/B model should be

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Correct me if I’m wrong but the Tomcat was capable of this right? I just can’t find a source for that capability. If anyone wants to make a report that can find a good source.

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Can they not mount the sealed variant of the AIM-54C to get around the coolant supply issue?

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Probably but, it is up to gaijin.

I’m not gonna sugarcoat it, even if we find a good source, it’s gonnna get declined for some arbitrary reason. We’ll try though.

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have you played the A recently? pure pain

I have no clue why they moved it up with the IRIAF, people got mad about Fakours so they upped all F-14s (???)

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i can understand why they moved the IRIAF but now if you play it you HAVE to use r27 and f90 aim9p is totally useless at the br and aim7e is also doodoo

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Just be thankful that you can still use the AIM-7E in PD radar modes, the AWG-9 IRL couldn’t.

Note the Single AIM-7F entry in the Pulse-Doppler Row, where there is a second Sparrow (AIM-7F & -7E) for the Pulse entries.

I’m not personally going to report it, it also might well be rejected since the difference between Conical scanning and Mono-pulse Seekers is not implemented as a design choice, currently. But I wouldn’t be surprised if Gaijin puts the boot in since The F-14 is well the F-14 and hasn’t kept pace or been revisited.

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AIM-7E isn’t guided using the main radar.
It’s guided using the CW illuminator …

AIM-7F can be guided using either the main radar (PD signal) or CW illuminator.

It’s noted in the relevant “Weapons Capability” column as “AIM-7E(CW)” & “AIM-7F(CW)” in Pulse Radar mode, so that is probably taken into account.

It’s likely that the AWG-9 in a PD mode uses “PD-ILL” Mechanization to guide Sparrows which is why the -7E is not listed.

Relevant excerpts




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I don’t think there is any such thing as “Pulse Doppler Illuminator”.
It essentially refers to PD STT. Where the radar continuously illuminates/tracks the target using the main radar transmitter.

The reason why you see “PDILL” listed for F-16C/D is because they lack the CW illuminator (It was omitted as it was no longer needed with modern AIM-7 variants)…

F-14 does have a CW illuminator, so there’s no reason it can’t use it when in PD STT mode.

Don’t read into that table too much … The information is just poorly presented …