F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

Does anybody have a source for the HAWK missile g limit ?
either MIM-23A or MIM-23B
Right now Sedjil and Faqur 90 are both have 15g limit which is really low for a missile that entered service in 1970s

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Hawk is 15G, the Fakour should likely be inferior to the Phoenix based on the weight & cg

That being said, Phoenix should be 24G and Fakour should be similar. 15G is too low.

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Fakour will be best long range missile, beating everything in range and time to target at high alt. Manouverability is shit however, as expected. Pulls 10 Gs max at sea level while in constant turning.

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Is the F-14A in game missing the thermal camera on the nose?

No, the 1977 modification that we have in-game did not have the camera at the time.

thats a bummer

F-14A 80’s mod equipped AAX-1 TCS

Thats not the ting I posted

@oom1992 the F-14A got a thermal camera before the TCS. The thermal camera it got is like the one on the F-8E

I meant the thermal pod, not the TCS camera

It was still an option, as listed in the relevant '77 SAC.

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So exactly what F-14A “early” do we have in game?

Only in the initial outline, not listed in electronics section or shown in any subsequent drawings or pictures.

Depends on what exactly you mean, The 3D model is that of one of the handful of surviving block 130 airframes (Note; beaver tail mod, Wing strake count, Nose Pitot tube, assorted antenna placement, etc. in comparison to the opening sequences of this video), having been remanufactured in '99 (At least the default skin as per MATS, for AC #158627; VF-1 #101 a block -65 airframe produced in '73) to bring it up to a common standard with the F-14B / Late F-14A. But i don’t exactly blame Gaijin since all surviving examples of the -A model are in the Block 130 configuration.

The Stores are configured to align with the aforementioned '77SAC, and as such only differs from the '75 SAC with the presence of the AIM-9D, which was to be used in training to conserve the supply of advanced components of the -9G / -9H and make use of the existing surplus since they were no longer relevant since they had been superseded.

Basically we don’t actually have an Early F-14 in game, we have what is effectively a midlife -14A (Block -130 remanufacture efforts began in '87 alongside the rollout of the F-14B).

I’d personally take Early to specify an introductory / first cruise configuration (which would only change minor things; like removing the AIM-9D).

It would also leave an opening for the addition of an F-14A-90, that may include trialed features like VTAS II or -III, AIM-95, AGM-53 etc.

Neither is it(the ALR-23) otherwise listed in the '74 SAC and yet can definitively be seen in a number of images and videos that post date it.
F-14A VF-1 (2)

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So its like the case of the A-4E early where its an amalgamation of different things to fit Gaijin’s needs?

The A-4E is a specific case where it actually reflects the intended configuration of the airframe as the “Early”, which indicates which of the Navigation computers was installed in the airframe (since early production A-4E used the early computer used in the A-4C & -D, since the production of the newer system was delayed until part way though the first production batch). Though again is missing some stores that it should have (Outer Wing Station Sidewinders, and AIM-9Ds) among others.

Otherwise there are a multitude of issues relating to implemented configurations and anachronistic / incompatible features and and stores of the F-4E (Basically everything), F-15s (Flares / Radar modes / performance, etc.) & F-16s (Sparrow / AMRAAM , Radar performance assorted A2G stores, etc.) as well, so its not really surprising, (And I’m sure there are others).

Though much of it doesn’t have a direct impact on gameplay for the most part, it does have some specific cases which again are mostly slight changes and continued 3D model issues.

Yeah For the A-4E specifically, I remember reading a bug report on it which said since the A-4E got flares then its to this certain spec, which should also include Aim-9Ds for all 4 pylons because there was a adapter for the inner bomb pylon to accept a AAM. Plus its supposed to have the -P8A engine not the -P6A. This would actually make it usable in air rb as a fighter cuz of more thrust.