F-14A AIM-9L atleast
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Genuinely what are they smoking?
I don’t even own the thing, but how is it comparable to something like a J10/J11b or F16Cm/Eagle C…
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Its entire reputation is based off a 1 trick pony missile that is incredibly easy to defend against
The only reason the damn plane is being moved up is because so many players just dont understand or are not willing to learn how to properly defend in top tier
It honestly pisses me off gaijin balances off these players because learning to defend against radar missiles is one of the most important aspects of modern jet gameplay and balancing off the people who refuse to learn it just punishes aircraft like the IRIAF that really is not a good plane without those missiles
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because they just cater to premium buyers. these wallet warriors buy a su30mk2 they suck and then they either quit or complain on social’s gaijin sees the stats and they balance the game around them
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Uhh guys why is the iranian f14 going up in a BR ? Why are we letting this ? This plane cannot compete at a full uptier
Idiots keep getting skill checked while flying in a straight line at top tier.
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13.7 just because of a skillcheck missile is so stupid.
Rest of the jet kit is mediocre even for br brackets it started from.
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Hey, Zeroes are moving to 6.0 because people still trying to turnfight them, i am completely not surprised by the fact that people can’t comprehend Fakours
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At this point give it the super theoretical upgrade package with irbis and saturn engines and put it at 14.0…
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Not only. Weirdly this happened after F-14D premium . Pretty much nothing changed other than they need to sell more and you can’t have them that close in BRs , since IRIAF won’t sell much at 200+ euros anyway.
To be fair IRIAF-14 is the main reason the other 14s are “bad” . IT heavily counters them , more than any other plane in that BR range .
Against everything else with 120s/77s/MICAs till BR 14.0 , if you’d fly high you’d have a pretty significant range advantage , even if your missile isn’t as good. So it creates the same niche gameplay you may find with IRIAF-14 if you want to , but with better airframes and kit (F-14B) and add radar as well (F-14D) .
The problem is that up high where it could be better for them to use 54s , they get hard countered by F90 (which has azzpull stats anyway, based on claims since not real info on the missile) .For example 14B that has the same radar AWG-9 , it’s pretty troubled in 54 vs F90 clash and prety much worse in every scenario (even mid range with 7M vs 27R, 7M gets rolled 27R not so and has IOG+DL) than WVR where 9Ms will win it .
And with F-14D as a premium , even with the better radar , means it won’t sell …more over gives less sensitivity to buy 14D if you have an IRIAF , so they have to make the BR gap between them more prominent.
It’s not that they couldn’t get it 13,7 before based on stats if they wanted to…Nothing really changed. Except a premium that needs to get sales.
Personally i don’t mind though, i prefer the other 14s being more playable than IRIAF that is based on an azzpull missile , because the whole plane is based on that.
If anything they can give it Fatter with imaginary stats (again no info) and make it a very mediocre/niche 13.7 and less of “only F90s” trick pony.
It is said that they upgraded AWG-9 (i don’t know, still from the time F90 is an azzpull i don’t mind more of them that make sense , hell we have planes that don’t make sense even more than that) .
So you can just do it APG-71-like (all aspect PD and target recognition /IFF) and get it to 14.0 . About engines , it’s not that the PWs it wears have the real problems of the PWs in RL , so they aren’t that bad… except that they need to fix the heat signature , or more or less in that bracket doesn’t make much difference since for the missiles played you still have to do the same things to evade more or less.
The most tragic thing is that actually.
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I hope it does
I mean the Fakour 90 is literally in game just a AIM-54 seeker performance wise and a HAWK motor section strapped to it. If you want a missile that is inaccurate, the AIM-54C and C+ are what you want, heck to a similar degree the AIM-54A too.
The only reason it does well is because that HAWK motor provides a titanic amount of delta V as it is a ground launch motor.
Hence why the missile is a skill check, the seeker can be easily defeated just by notching or going cold, you don’t even need to chaff, but because it has so much delta V, the missile only gives a limited window to do said maneuvers. The AIM-54s do the same exact thing but because gaijin modeled them with more drag than the F-14 that launches them, they cant skill check people as they take a literal week to reach most targets.
If you gave the AIM-54s, any of them, the same motor they would be doing the same exact thing to people as the Fakour currently is.
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The 54s are inaccurate and nerfed , yes…
However about F90 a missile is more than an engine that is known . We don’t know the seeker, GJ just put the same seeker… It is said to have HAWKs electronics, however HAWK was SARH…
And about putting an engine with more thrust, do we know that AIM-54s airframe can sustain that speed at lower altitude or it will be disintegrated, the flight controls would they be able to turn the missile or they’d fall off or they’ll just won’t turn it and it’ll flight straight? The autopilot supposed to be HAWKs or 54s in RL or some custom made or is a mix with some chinese or russian electronics?
In general… there is no documentation. Just claims…
Similar claims with the upgraded radar… similar claims with the Fatter missile…
We know very few things. It’s not that you put another engine and “it’s better” … Imagine they claim that F-4s can use it too and MiG 29 as well and other claims state even Su-24. Then about the range… some say less than 54s, some say 400km.
Skill check or not, under what data it is made? Because it is based on claims it is an azzpull.
They aren’t the same anymore, the aim54s all got converted to pulse doppler while the f90 is still cw
Fakours are stupidly simple to decoy. And the Radar on the F-14IRAF makes using them a chore.
If a player is alt tabbed or scrolling Tiktok and die that is on them. We didnt used to have airspwans thia meant the AFK players would die on take off or just not spawn.
No part and I include the Fakour should put an F-14A at 13.7.
Pure insanity
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wait aim54a too? so youre telling me that its still better than the c?
Yup, all the 54s got changed
Yes however every crapper will go and hit his head on it and that’s the last how many years , not now.
If they wanted they could have uptier it to such levels a long time ago. It probably has to do with the premium 14D more (sales) , else the plane has nothing against the premium 13.3s Su-30s for example.
However , in what you quoted me.
The missile is still an azzpull. What i’m saying is not whether it should stay 13,3 or go 13,7.
I’m saying that we don’t even have enough data to justify the missiles performance , making it a big “what if” secnario.
If anything they could play with the claims and toy around with the missiles stats and even make it comparable to the 12,7 14A (which the major difference is the F90s) , or go full BS and upgrade the radar (according to claims ) by simply making it all aspect PD and target recognition , give it Fatter missiles as well and according to claims better than AIM-9M and get it to 14.0 … It would be fantasy-land 14 but still more believable than Yak 141 shooting missiles!!
Now they just took it out of the game, practically. And while i have the plane, it’s not that care that much. The other 14s are there.
If anything the only thing F90 practically does is not letting the other 14s play as they should (the whole go high throw 54s), because if they do it’s the same plane vs the same plane with better missile (talking the AWG-9 ones). And actually at 10km altitude , yes they’d have trouble with the f90 , at best they’ll be on defensive.
F90s were made in the way Gaijin wanted them, they could remove them leave the standard Phoenix and add the “tested” R-73 in place of the 9P (Which for a 13.0 aircraft is a joke)
Gaijin tried to do something unique with the IR F-14A and we can only commend them on it. My gut tells me it was meant to be a Russian event vehicle originally.
Using Russian and US missiles and the close relationship Iran has and had with Russia. We know the Iranian Su-35 is not going in the US tree.
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