F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

Unironically yes

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I’m guessing you didn’t see the NATO MANPAD debacle lol

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i havent lol… do i want to ? XD

There are literally afterburner plume heat charts in the manuals we could use for F-15 and F-16, I’m sure if someone pointed to those they could demonstrate the temps are too high. It would be a report on engines in general, not just the F-14 tho.

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Its a similar issue to how they don’t directly use data from Firing trials to model Shell performance, but run it though a bespoke performance calculator to equivocate performance (which itself has a number of issues, which is basically never going to be revised).

There is simply not enough details known to even begin to guess at IR performance metrics for most of the engines in game, let alone the specific chemistry of IR countermeasure compositions that would be needed to fully implement a similar solution (also various airframes are in configurations that never existed / flew so there is a lack of data for them).

Yes, there are methods that could be used to fairly approximate performance(e.g. implement GASRAD, or alternately anything discussed in the handbook), but it would require significant work to get going, and even then there are likely a few edge cases where things fail due to a lack of data.

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I won’t derail this topic too much, but here’s a link to Gaijin’s official response thread, enjoy the comment section XD

I personally prefer this topic since it’s a little more concise.

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Oh yes, that’s the one!

lmao… great stuff… idk how one can still have faith in this company XD

It’s really weird how they over-model heat signatures and at the same time under-model IR detection ranges such that everything’s too hot but you still can’t see it from far enough away I don’t get it

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Regarding the previous discussion about OLS and potential fixing of the AN/AXX-1 TCS will lead to it having a proper sensor interface like radar an IRST…

Obviously, the most important function would be allowing the TCS to slave the radar if the radar itself couldnt maintain a lock, but I find one of the things that bugs me the most about TCS (particularly since ive migrated to sim air) is the fact that the only 2 ways for me to see its display are in the actual pod view, or the un-zoomed MFD view in my cockpit, which makes easily identifying targets while maintaining your situational awareness and flying near impossible. They could either make it so they TCS view in the cockpit MFD can be zoomed, or maybe replace the radar window with an optical TCS view window when the TCS is acting as master sensor, similar to how IRST has its own sensor window when switched to IRST as main sensor.

This would also be a step in the direction of future IIR IRST such as the AN/AAS-42 on the F-14D, or the PIRATE IRST from the Eurofighter

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Man I love that the F-14’s manual says that if the engine goes over ~935 °C, that it will be damaged. Gaijin solution: give it an extra 200° temperature.

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electro-optic views in cockpit in general right now are awful. the lack of ability to slew the and lock them from cockpit view alongside the terrible resolution from cockpit view makes for an insanely frustrating experience using them for literally anything in sim especially

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Yeah don’t you love it when a F5 on full heat is colder then a Harrier

Day 250 of waiting for the engine thrust and weight to be fixed

Are there open bug reports, if so can you link them?

Turns out thrust is actually pretty accurate now, not sure if its been updated since the patch this was made but:
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Since posting my comment I have learned two things:

Most importantly 1: Thrust changing with airspeed is simulated

2: This graph doesn’t seem to add up with the War Thunder wiki, and I can’t check in-game because of server maintenance.
On the graph it looks like it’d reach the top thrust of about 27,396kgf at 1070 TAS or so, while the War Thunder Wiki says it’s 27,220kgf at 1,200kph.
(Numbers given on max thrust range from 24,000 to 27,396kgf, if anyone has the actual numbers on like a declassified document, that’d help me out)

Regardless of statistics, the F-14B doesn’t accelerate or top out how you’d expect, and it puzzles me.

Thank you for the graph, I’m not very smart when it comes to this and could never find something like this.

Not that I am aware of, a lot of closed ones regarding the F-14s though.

I’ll look into it further.

Anyone care to check if the F-14B’s TCS slaves radar? I think it got screwed by Gaijin again:
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Now it doesn’t say OLS, it says IRST specifically…

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