So it turns out F111A was nerfed the same way as F104, MiG 23(iirc as well) was nerfed in September 2024, but I dunno guys… Comparing to test flight oF F111F that can reach 1500 km/hour the same time as F111A gets 1300. 28% engine thrust difference can do such wonders?
Basically, iirc F111A should get Mach 1.2 and that’s historically accurate? Eventually right now only F111F with 60 mins of fuel can do that, if we talk about Aardvark.
Also small note that F111F gets to 1100 km/hour in 6 mins of fuel, while F111A does the same in 10+ minutes… Great.
Then, AIM 9B, really? I’m supposed to bleed the energy of this plane to aim my plane onto enemy’s plane to launch ineffecient rockets? The majority of times I die with them unused, cuz there literally was no occasion, or there could be but I’d die even faster cuz slightest, simple turns bleed energy, same as F104 nowadays, and as I suppose MiG23 (that shows as well)
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Okay, I compared them with just 2 rockets of the load and 60 mins of fuel and:
F111A reaches 1.19 in 18.5 minutes of fuel in 2 minutes 13 seconds (reaches 1.0 in I dunno, 1 min 20 secs)
F111F reaches 1.20 in 10 minutes of fuel in 1 minutes 21 seconds (and reaches 1.0 in roughly 59 seconds)
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This seems like a slight overperformance, but I’ll ignore it
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Never forget what the US bug forum warriors did to the Mig 23. Can’t ignore anything anymore.
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At what altitude exactly, it makes a gigantic difference.
I greatly assisted that report and it is still overperforming, what are you talking about?
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Damn, what would the actual stats of the mig 23 be then? And kinda ironic with your name.
I don’t recall off the top of my head, but turn rate is still at least around 10-15% higher than it should be according to some. Realistically, wing flutter causes loss of lift so the in-game performance doesn’t simulate this. Hard to accurately portray such a design in-game without either artificially nerfing the stability to account for flutter or whatnot.
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70 meters, when u spawn and take off in the test flight in Midway iirc
Overperformance of which plane, excuse me?
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That’s why, climb to max speed @ altitude and then you’ll get your top speed possible.
… It’s reported to have 1.2 mach at sea level. Like, what kind of advice of that? We talk about practicality, why do I need to climb to 15kms in a regular Air RB?
Because no one’s gonna, A) Climb to get you and B) That’s how physics works, sorry bout your luck.
Everyone climbs for easy kills, especially in jets
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Even theoretically, this thing climbs badly having about just 100 m/s climb rate.
Like, again, I was talking about Air RB, about sea level performance, and u brought up high altitude max speeds. Thank u.
And yeah, as SpeclistMain1 said, every1 does + F-111 has hot engines to the point that for example AIM 9L ignores flares and goes straight to the engines
Okay, so you just want me to explain why it can’t reach its theoretical top speed @ sea level?
So, I wrote down somewhere that I expect 2400 km/hours at sea level? That’s what I said, right? Maybe that’s u who missed the point how I proved that F111A can’t reach 1.20 Mach in practical Air RB conditions, low alt included?
If it can’t, it just can’t, idk what to tell you.
Something is really broken imo with the drag properties of F111A and the power of its engine.
60 mins of fuel, this time I took the most outer placement of AIM 9B, and it can’t even reach 1.2 Mach, it reaches this speed (1408 km/h) in 2 minutes 20 seconds, and 1/3 of 60 mins of fuel… Noice, marvelous.
P.S. Absurd, this time I can’t get past 1.15 Mach anyhow with any placement of 2 AIM9Bs, maybe I had actually less than 60 mins of fuel before. Edit: no, actually I could only reach 1.19 without the Vulcan.
So, u can only reach 1.2 with two AIM 9B in 2 minutes 20 seconds in the straightest line one could only imagine, no additional armament and it has 10.7. Noice
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There is absolutely nothing about the F-111A in War Thunder that is accurate. I’m tempted to think at this point even the name is wrong given how badly Gaijin screwed up here. It literally cannot reach its top speed. What they could do (but won’t) to rectify the issue is revert the Oswald change entirely. This would go a long way in ensuring it meets the performance specifications for the plane. It should have a sustained turn rate speed that’s the same or higher than the F-14A depending on speed. The F-111F should outperform the F-14A in every single flight regime.
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