The top speed of F-111, or any aircraft, is clean.
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It’s a 60’s era jet that can go supersonic with ordnance in spite of the intake having no boundary air layer splitter which is pretty dang good if you ask me. (Later models fixed that).
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Ahh,… the famous player type: if it is not OP not playing it,…
Now the advark is a bus that bleeds speed faster than a delta like a mig21. I only enjoy dogfight capable planes, what’s wrong with it? If you enjoy bombing bases 24/7 that’s up to you but I don’t
sure, but I specifically pointed out the problem while carrying ordnance which is how I noticed it. I went from going like 1.12 or so by the time I hit a base to barely breaking 1.02. That’s a massive nerf. Discussing a clean Vark would do me no good. Also, why isn’t it mentioned in the patch notes? I cannot stand underhanded behavior.
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That’s fine, but there is a reason the US Navy didn’t proceed with the F-111B… it was genuinely a bus.
If you don’t entirely believe me,
F-111A/F WSO Account - https://youtu.be/Jd0vmKRdBZE?si=EXNVGLpqG8QZ3AkP (9:50 onwards for about a minute)
Karl Gruner states you could pull 7Gs, the problem was of course you couldn’t do so for long otherwise you’d run out of speed.
You just don’t want to pull Gs if at all possible. the Vark just wasn’t optimised for A/A unfortunately.
I am just pointing out that the Advark is not worth it anymore, at least not at 10.3 with aim9b and the energy retention of a phantom while having a less instant turn and worse acceleration. I’d rather pick up the F-4F at 10.7 for that heavy fighter/support role playstyle.
I’m not advocating for unrealistic flight performance, but the F-111 right now is not 10.3 material
You do realize that F-111 is a delta wing aircraft when its wings are swept right?
Why would you dogfight will your wings swept back lol? Obviously, I’m talking about fully extended wings performance which is now worse than a phantom
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As it should be.
F-111 weighs more, has more leading edge drag, and has less dogfight thrust.
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Yeah sure, but not at 10.3. The only thing that made it a competitive vehicle was the ability to rate fight everyone at that BR after you get on low fuel. Now that the FM is fixed/nerfed it is just a much worse option compared to others in it’s BR range
8 AAM, high speed → using it as F-104A or B, firing AIM-9B to slowed target (basically the ones dogfighting) from a distance of 2.5km and less
It would transition from an Attacker with Dogfight ability to an attacker with Opportunity Air-Air abilities.
The F-104A and C, are to be played similarly, yet the F-111 turn better than those, and have 8 AIM-9(4x times the F-104A/C), and also Flares/chaffs → 10.3 is still good rating considering other F-104 (G/J/S/S ASA)
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Firstly, every starfighter is overtiered (br compression) IMHO, but that’s not the point of this thread.
Useless missiles at 10.3, unless your target is AFK. Could have 20 of them, would not change a thing
The F-111 does not have the acceleration/speed to do that playstyle reliably now.
Compare the F-111 performance and loadout with a mig21 SMT or the F-4F and you can see how bad it is, both of those are faster and can outrun you in normal conditions, both have faster instantaneous turn rate and better or similar sustained turn rate. With actually useful missiles.
The overperforming F-111 did great at 10.3 because it acted like a heavier F-14a with a vulcan and 2000 rounds at that BR, it would outrun or out-rate any plane it encountered. Now there’s nothing going for it except the ammo count and the decent search radar that can keep locks at low altitudes fairly well to get you a lead indicator.
By now it’s barely 1.13 Mach and it ate 25 minutes of fuel of 60 to get to this speed
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There have been no flight model changes since I last tested it. Could you provide a video or some kind of proof of what you’re saying?
Additionally, it performed quite poorly even for the required specifications, failing to meet many standards;
When gaijin initially modeled the airplane they did so based on documentation of the requirements and not the demonstrated performance, so it severely overperformed when it was first added.
I started the new topic, and maybe it can reach 1.20 but it isn’t really practical
I can’t help but feel like a guy named MiG 23 might be a bit biased against US planes… haha. But really, vark was already pain. Just put it out of its misery already.
Something book something cover judging idk
I’m an American patriot and my username is not indicative of my biases or beliefs.
If you recorded the time to accelerate we can compare to documentation and see if there is an error.
Merely kidding, Mig-23 is (was) my favorite soviet plane.
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I just did, in that new topic