F-104S/F-4EJ actively ruining bomber experience

Time zones is the reason why. Pacific time zone players love to bomb.

THEN IT IS NOT THE PLANE’S PROBLEM BUT THE PLAYERS’ PROBLEM.
Isn’t it?

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I play late in the evening quite often (UK Time), usually with US servers selected for faster queues. I dont really find much of a difference. I may not get base 1 or 2 on the left, but usually get one of the two on the right and the Tornado is no longer an overladen cargo plane. It can fight okay enough to throw people off.

My recommended loadout.

2x Aim-9Ls
2x BOZ
5x Mk13 high drag or 6x Mk83 high drag

I personally like 30 mins internal + fuel tanks, because in a pinch, I can ditch them for an immediate FM boost, but there is an argument to be made for 45-50 mins internal without the extra drag (with fuel dumping coming, that then becomes even more optimal)

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Ironic coming from the guy who gained fame on this forum FOR USING FIGHTERS TO BASE BOMB

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NA servers have some trash players ill give you that, enjoy stomping there sometimes. I get why the Chinese go onto NA

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That and they have more people to test their cheats on.

I wonder how many bomb runs itd take to kill a base in a low tier zero now

Thank god someone has actually put an idea forward, this is exactly what I think as well. Gaijin needs to DISINSENTIVISE people from bombing in pure fighters/intercepters. Will this solve the problem entirely? No. But it will change how aircraft are used, like when rockets were fixed/nerfed.

Nah I actually quite like getting chase by 20 missle behind me and doge fighting while with my bombs to their. Protecting my bombs = Kill enemy who try to kill me. Shooting the missle at last second always grant me a kill however, Am gonna stop this strategy when reaching top tier.

Ppl still rocket bases now?
It was extreamly nerfed and its much better to use normal bombs now

I heard only phantoms with Zuni rockets could.
But I also heard it costs double the weight of 12 x 500lb
Then it might be quadruple the weight of Napalm, maybe?

Old rocketing with FFAR/SNEB are dead, as you know

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I only use the J-7D for A2A combat so…

Yep, bombing bases with rockets has been nerfed to 6 feet underground. Now it’s either huge loads of small bombs or go with Napalm

So it is fine when YOU bomb bases in a jet, but when others do same stupid thing it is not fine… :D

I used to always get to bomb the base in my slow AF harrier. Many mig21 s took a 9G on the way but alas.

The bases respawn pretty quickly anyway. So just wait if u dont want to TK…

The better suggestion is for larger maps with more ground targets - Both bases and AI - to hit for those wanting to PTFO for the ground game moreso than air combat.

Also, destroying bases should affect the ticket pool again. That change was always stupid.

EJ ADTW with full FFAR loadout can still do it.

What if instead of complaining about individual planes we bully gaijin into having more bases spawn at the beginning? They make us wait for new bases to spawn for no reason when they could have them all spawn at once and then everyone could get bombs off.

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what

Meanwhile you can do the same points by hitting GTs, and it’s not riskier than going for bases.
I think the they should bring back Airfield bombing though… I remember i was playing at that time and i played interceptors and it was good gameplay (and way more realistic) .

And for high tiers with missiles etc. that would be fun. And way more realistic…