i have some question, the SF.260 Indonesia Air Force receive from Singapore are M and W version with W version is capable to use 2 to 4 hardpoint for weapons, so why it’s not included here? is it because lack of info on armament used or something?
used as a trainer only, we also dont have any evidence of it being capable of carrying suspended ordinance. We dont know what modifications the singapore did before giving it to us, they could’ve just removed that option since we wanted to use it as a trainer, etc.
SIAI-Marchetti SF.260 Hibah dari RSAF – Aviation History of Indonesia
besides it has a cruise speed of 300km/h, that itself is, for lack of a better word, quite horrendous (Like rank 1 level bad, and it was made in the 70s!)
Indonesia had a few SF-260WS (LK-2601 / LK-2602 / LK-2603 / LK-2604 / LK-2605 / LK-2606 / LK-2608 / LK-2612 / LK-2618) from previous Singaporean stocks, but those were also used as trainers only. Also since the WS is the Singaporean specific model, there is sadly no information on armament for it. It could be the same as the W, but it’s simply unknown now.
Personally I’d say the best way to add an SF.260W to the techtree would be through Thailand. While they also didn’t use the armament, they had one unmodified SF.260W (F15-18/21) which was just used as part of their SF.260MT trainer fleet. While they didn’t seem to have the removable pylons, this aircraft is fully capable of using them.
SF.260W F15-18/21 in Thai service
But the more important thing and the reason why I think this would be better than an Indonesian example is that this was used as the lead-in to Thailands most recent domestic aircraft development. This airframe was used as the basis for the B.ChOr.2, an experimental aircraft that was used mainly to study the SF.260s construction by disassembling it, then reassembling it while integrating some Thai components. This would then be the basis for the RTAF-6 (B.ThOr.6), a Thai domestic aircraft based on licensed SF.260TP
B.ChOr.2 with the distinct orange paint scheme
(I hope this isn’t too much Thailand for the Indonesian topic, I can move it if needed)
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Since Transport Helicopters are confirmed to be coming. Here is a Indonesian operated Mil-Mi-6 Hook
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yeah i ask because XT-4 is passed to Dev and have the same situation where it actually have capability to carry suspended armament but never carry anything but dummy weapons
I’m guessing Gaijin probably found a source or two that confirms that the T-4’s can carry ground munitions but they either won’t disclose it or it’s on the Russian counterpart. Or they are basing the weapon loadouts from the MT-X mockup which was part of the same program that the T-4 is apart of just from a different manufacturer
Dummy weapons especially bombs require all the same prep to use them its just the warhead is concrete or water. (we should get Dummy bombs for infantry they have been used when you need to use kinetics in urban situation)
XT-4 likely could be added with a wide range of weapons as its likely sitting in the area if you wanted it to have them it likely could.
When Will the Chengdu J-10 Fighter Jet Arrive? Here Is the Air Force Chief of Staff’s Answer
Ditanya Kapan Jet Tempur Chengdu J-10 Tiba? Begini Jawab KSAU | Republika Online
REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, JAKARTA – Air Force Chief of Staff (KSAU) Marshal Mohammad Tonny Harjono asked the public to be patient regarding the arrival of the Chengdu J-10 fighter jets from China. “Just wait,” Tonny said with a smile to Republika at TNI Headquarters, Cilangkap, East Jakarta, Monday (5/10/2026).
According to information obtained by Republika , the fighter jet, nicknamed the Vigorous Dragon, will arrive in Indonesia six months from now. However, the number of units arriving in Indonesia for the first time next year is still unknown.
At the same location, Dave Akbarshah Fikarno Laksono, a member of Commission I of the Indonesian House of Representatives (DPR RI), supported the Indonesian Ministry of Defense’s (Kemenhan) move to purchase J-10 fighter jets. He believes the purchase of the 4.5th-generation fighter jet from China could strengthen the defense of the Unitary State of the Republic of Indonesia.
“We also look at global conditions and threats. We see that there are still conflicts in Southeast Asia, even among ASEAN countries. So, we need to have adequate combat equipment and be able to intercept these threats,” Dave said.
According to him, Commission I of the House of Representatives (DPR) also had no problem with the Indonesian government ultimately choosing defense equipment from China. For Dave, the quality of defense equipment from Western countries and China is now the same. “It’s no problem, no problem, as long as the supply chain , training, and support units are adequate, it’s no problem,” Dave said.
6 months from now apparently
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I just hope they arrive with unique livery :v not some boring grey
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Well training is in order dropping in a new plane with little to no training just gives you a hanger queen
unfortunately every new airframes we get now gets painted in boring grey, so its most likely going to look like this
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We can pray that they atleast get the same grey camo as their flankers
Nah, this grey with pattern is okay 👍 as long as it’s not PLA/UzAF grey
Using Rafale’s livery on J-10C is ironic tho :v
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For now wait until airshow day
We put them in the hanger overnight for them to work out there issues we found Rafale in pieces the next morning.
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