EDIT V11:
was planned in 1965 to be brought in, we sent pilots over there to train on it, 30th september happened, deal fell through. Originally I was also going to include the declassified CIA document but dunno whether thats allowed or not so I decided against that
In game performance: Nothing too groundbreaking, would be a worse MiG-21F-13 since its missing the gun, but it is a possible alternative
Well if it’s declassified, there shouldn’t be any problem
well its not that part, its this that worries me
is it safe for certain?
If we’re thinking about the same document, this should be clear
Edit: also, it has been published in CIA’s Reading Room website, which stated:
In case you don’t know what FOIA is:
On another note, there was this image of the T-34 with what looks like a live (?) FFAR rocket pod as well as some gunpods (unsure), can anyone help ID the suspended armaments?
Based on this monument, looks like FFAR and SURA rockets
This looks like your average Soviet blunt-nosed bomb, maybe OFAB-250?
The gunpod does not looks like the type used by other air arm’s T-34C, could it be they reusing old AT-6 Texan’s .303 gunpod?
AT-6 Browning .303 gunpod
The gunpods on the Gabonese T-34’s are 50.cal gunpods if i recall correctly. I know this since there’s pics of the exact same gunpod mounted on other combat trainers and COIN vehicles from other nations which explicitly stated that it’s a 12.7mm gunpod.
Though even though the image is blurry It seems that the gunpod in question on the Indonesian T-34C is similar if not identical to the one shown on the AT-6 Judging by it’s shape and dimensions of the pod alone
The fact that Indonesian T-34’s use Swiss and Soviet secondary ordinances is a good find too
I disagree, the gunpods on Gabonese T-34 has flat bottom, while my observation based on that blurry photo is the Indonesian gunpod appears to be bulgy and kinda looks like a drop tank, and it also partially obscured the landing gear
isnt that what he said though?
oh yeah forgot about that part and it’s 3-4 am when I wrote that, my bad
EDIT V12:
The first batch of Rafale Bs has been delivered last week, as such they are being moved from the “future” section into the active section (basically Rank 9).
Indonesia has unilaterally torn up the procurement contract for the Su-35. The procurement of the J-10B/C was only a unilateral claim by the Indonesian side, and only a memorandum of understanding (MOU) was signed for the F-15EX, which was not subsequently approved by the U.S. government. Indonesia ultimately selected the twin-seat Rafale fighter jet. Therefore, the addition of the Su-35S, F-15EX, and J-10B/C should not be requested, since the country has already chosen the Rafale
Indonesia ordered single as well as twin seat Rafale in the same order a few years back, its completely unrelated to other acquisition plans / potential orders.
There is no evidence to prove that Indonesia has purchased the Su-35, F-15EX, or J-10B/C. Indonesia’s attempt to procure the Su-35 was declared a failure as early as 2021. The country once weighed its options between the Boeing F-15EX Eagle II and the Dassault Rafale fighter jet. Regarding the F-15EX, there is no official contract from Indonesia to substantiate any purchase intent. For instance, Israel, which purchased the Israeli-version F-15EX (F-15IA) this year, has a formal contract, whereas Indonesia only signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU). Ultimately, Indonesia chose the Rafale over the F-15EX, making the claim that Indonesia would acquire the F-15EX completely baseless. The situation with the J-10B is identical: there has only been a unilateral announcement from the Indonesian side, and the two parties did not even sign an MOU. I am currently in China, and this photo of a Flanker-series aircraft flying directly overhead is solid proof. I took this photo myself, and there is absolutely no second copy of it to be found online. Previously, I have also witnessed three J-10Bs conducting combat exercises right above my head. Under such circumstances, how could there be any talk of exporting them to Indonesia? These few projects are not potential orders at all: two ended in total failure, and the other is merely a unilateral statement with no substantive progress.
The news regarding the procurement of the J-10B has never been officially confirmed by China. What’s more, the Indonesian Air Force has not even conducted test flights of the J-10B. So how did you arrive at that conclusion?
deal was frozen in 2021, not cancelled
Sure only a claim, not like our AFB are currently on planning on expanding its fighter squadron, expanding the airbase, as well as it having this jet as the meeting’s main presentation slide. Not to mention many different reputable ID source basically saying yes we’re close on getting it
Correct,
Not correct, in fact we already got the budget allocations for it, however during LoA deadline we did not activate the purchase
we have both variants of the Rafale already flying in France
You say that isnt if our country hasnt operated multiple different faction’s jets before. Even currently we still have F-16s flying side by side with the Sukhois
If a military asset should be added just because it appears in relevant military contexts, then the F-22 and F-35, which frequently appear in China’s military exercises, should they be assigned to China as well? Furthermore, present concrete evidence from the so-called authoritative media you mentioned, instead of using claims from self-media that the J-10C is coming soon as your basis. Since you have not purchased the F-15EX or the Su-35, these models naturally should not be added
