So, I believe that everything has reported and accepted for the Mirage IIIS C.70
[DEV] Mirage IIIS C.70 missing (and inaccurate) droptanks
[DEV] Mirage IIIS C.70 inaccurate camouflage
[DEV] Mirage IIIS C.70 missing JATO capabilities / boosters
[DEV] Mirage IIIS C.70 incorrect AIM-9 model
[DEV] Mirage IIIS missing the Flz Lwf 63/80
[DEV] Mirage IIIS C.70 incorrect radar
…Except for the RWR, which I still haven’t been able to find any information on.
Could possibly be the AN/APR-39 as it has been installed on a Mirage III:
But in any case, I’m pretty sure it will be an American system.
I couldn’t find anything more either. The sources (mostly 3rd party websites) all mentioned the IP-1310/ALR, but since thats the display idk…
I remember reading in a comment somewhere that it should be the same RWR as the Swiss F-5 has? So the AN/ALR-46… But idk about the valitidy of that claim.
Have you gotten any info about the RWR from the manual @Schindibee?
Edit: Going off the naming of the RWR display in the shown system, the RWR must be an ALR RWR.
IP 1150/APR-39 → AN/APR-39
IP-1310/ALR → AN/ALR-??
example: the F-16 also uses the IP-1310/ALR display and uses an ALR RWR
On it, got the original pilots manual which contains detailed info on the RWR.
Quite a few things have now been accepted, the manual I sent them via tech mods probably goes a long way to confirm the issues, so atm. I’m pretty hopeful we’ll see at least some improvements…
Anyone reported already the inoperability of the FALCO’s?
Ok, collected the info on the AN/ALR-87 now from the MIRO’s pilot manual, report here, please support: [Dev] Mirage IIIS wrong RWR, should have AN/ALR-87 // Gaijin.net // Issues
very nice!
Forwarded.
Splendid! Much appreciated!
Now on to the TARAN radar and navigation system. Sadly this is only covered in the second volumen of the MIRO’s pilot manual, and I only got volume 1 (but which mentions the TARAn in the index as well as the aircraft general description)…
Hi, for the non-droppable 500L tank, do you know if it’s the same as on the French Mirage III? Because if it is, I have a source showing the installation of a non-droppable 500L on a 3E
Excellent work on the RWR.
As for TARAN, there is a document here which explains some of these uses and specifications of the radar, I included it in my original report:
I think it better to wait until it’s actually implemented before making any further reports about it.
One thing I couldn’t determine however is if it had the ability to provide a gun lead on air targets. I believe it can do that for ground targets, but not sure for air.
Well, the whole TARAN integration was largely responsible for the whole scandal that was called the “Mirage Affäre” which led to quite a few “rolling heads”, including then Federal Council Chaudet, and was a major cornerstone in the history of the Swiss Army.
The TARAN was specifically designed for the Swiss Mirage IIIS, based on the radar systems employed int he F-102 and F-106, which also used it specifically for the use in connection with the HM-55/AIM-26 Falcon missiles. The TARAN testing and integration was the reason why Swiss Mirages went to Holloman in the USA for a while, even.
IIRC the main difference to the preceding US system was the improved possibility to use the system for navigation (including a basic ground mapping or at least referencing method), ground attack capability and a by then ultra modern moving map display (I very much hope they somehow find a way to implement this as well, maybe as minimap MFD).
One can truly not mention TARAN without mentioning the Mirage IIIS as well, and vice versa!
So far I found little technical info, but a whole collection of Government Documents in the archives that cover the Mirage IIIS/TARAN/HM-55 purchase and the accompanying political fallout.
Can’t get much more official that official government coverage, eh? = )
The reports here, and the drop-tanks, are just for the Swiss Mirage IIIS. I am not familiar with the IIIE, but I don’t think France used these tanks on their Mirage IIIEs.
If the IIIE could also carry other tanks than the ones in game already, and you got a good source proving that, I would suggest making a seperate report about that.
If you search for images of the IIIE, you will find a lot of images of underwing tanks that at the very least look very similar to the 500 liter tanks we used, like this one here:
Yes, I know, I’m just trying to see if I can help with the Swiss Mirage with some French sources. The 500L tanks was tested and used by the French Mirage IIIs, and since the Mirage IIIS is derived from it, I thought both aircraft could be compatible with the same types of tanks.
The image below comes from this source page 9 if that helps
Looks like we are getting the Mirage IIIS does properly before its release.
@Schindibee Can you open the same bug report for RWR of the Tiger II aswell, because it has the wrong one too.
Ah, ok. Thanks for the offer for help.
The report was already acepted. :)
The source he used was the Mirage IIIS flight manual, so it won’t apply to the Tiger. I have found three sources for the Swiss Tiger’s use of the AN/ALR-87, but two of them are Key Aero magazines and one of them is Jane’s, which they don’t like and I’m not sure if they would accept two sources from the same publication (even if they are different issues).
So I’ll keep looking for another unless you have found something.
Nice!
Hey, where’d you find the texture for the canards? They’re not part of the main texture file, so I guess via CDK?
Was working last weekend on adapting my old Milan and IIIC templates for the IIIS, guess tonight may finish the whole lines and rivets, then off to camo, markings and weathering…
Plan to do at least one “basic” KAWEST 85 variant, plus some interesting special schemes, maybe even Goldie if I manage to get the _n-file do what I want for it…
