See the mention of the proximity fuse (Annäherungszünder) here for confirmation.
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wow the perfomance difference is kind of insane, i really wonder why the IIIE is that heavy? I’ve read ITT that its larger than the IIIC in order to fit more powerful avionics, would that explain the discrepancy?
For the Nosewheel there is a bug report
[Dev] Mirage IIIS wrong nosewheel extension (“Surgonflage”) // Gaijin.net // Issues
theres a bug report on it being too heavy.
@Schindibee I need confirmation on something
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/9RxYKlqXSVqY
apparently the weight of the IIIS is wrong…
what does the manual say?
Maybe this helps. (Note, this is after the upgrade, see also mention of the ballast on the last lines.)
It performs better at 10.3. AIM-9J/P will be slightly more effective while you get matched against R-24R.
Matra 530 is actually better in variois aspects but having only one is a pain.
If you think the 530 is better at ALL then your mistaken, the thing can be dodged as easy as an r3r, just takes a slight role. I am not entirly sure it can actually pull 15gs. It being a mirage 3e with a better fm while retaining the countermeasures, the ability to bring rocket and guns as well as 2 sarh missiles with a better radar… Its a side grade if not better than a mirage 3e at a lower br, it should be moved up either way im just trying to get you something other than 9es for 10.7.
The thing gets up tiered 70 percent of the time.
It’s insane that this plane can see Ja37D or Mig21bis which are planes that are better in every away.
Aim-9P is essential at this rate.
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whats the differences between 9p3 and 9j anyways? also what p variant would the swiss get that would be the j equivalent
The P can be slaved by radar, the J cannot.
No other differences I know of
In various aspects.
At longer ranges and in cerrain scenarious it is simoly inferior. It has mire energy as well.
I do not want them AIM-9Ps I want to stay at a competitive Mirage with it.
You got the Mirage III wrong entirely.
Mirage IIIS should not move up, Mirage IIIE should be moved down again.
I truly believe they should add the pre-upgrade one with current armament but at 10.0, and rise this post-upgrad variant we got now in BR but with proper weapons at 11.3 max.
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9m ripoffs at 11.3 is crazy, 11.7 minimum. better fm than the jaguar which i think currently gets the earliest irccm missiles on a super sonic platform.
As I have said before I would like that too but it is not what we have got.
What we have got is better at 10.3 with AIM-9E than it would be at 10.7 with AIM-9P.
Early Mirage IIIS would be 9.7 material.
I would like Mirage IIIC to have Magic 1 removed and placed at 9.7 also.
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i wonder what would be better, early mirage 3s or milan. both are swiss mirages, although the milan if i recall correctly wasn’t actually bought
nice.
What is the empty weight though?
Is the Basisgewicht that is described at the bottom the 8688kg listed above.
Because if it is, then the ‘empty’ weight (with the AIM-9 pylons) would be the 8688kg minus fuel.
So 8688kg - 2180 lt x 0,79 kg/lt = 6.965,8 kg empty (with AIM-9 pylons).
and then either + or - the balast of 87kg…
is there more about weight in the manual?
Also, does anyone know what official report could be meant in the bug report? The one who reported was so kind and didn’t name it…
and the Soutes are these conformal fuel tanks, right?
which means their weight is wrong…
Should be 77 kg and 44 kg respectively…
And the weight of the 770l droptank is also wrong.
rack 60kg and empty tank 78kg should be 138, and not the 120kg it is in game…
Also the weight of the guns in game is 160kg, but I don’t know if thats with ammo or not…
I also did some testing with the fuel weight, and I can say, the weight of the fuel is wrong in game.
The 730l tank has 592kg in game, while it should be 577kg
The left conformal has 430kg of fuel, which is close to the Rumpfbehälter hinten Soute, just off by 5kg
The clean aircraft itself has 1896kg of fuel with 100%.
So in game the fuel density is 592kg/730l = 0,811 kg/l
And not the 0,79 kg/l it should be
Which leads to a factor of 1,233 (1/0,811)
So the fuel the Mirage carries in game is:
- 530,19 l in the conformal fuel tank (~20l less fuel than it should have)
- 2.337,768 l internal fuel (probably ~97,41% of the actual fuel)
So we have a new issue guys…
Nope, big fucking nope. the mig 21s are bad enough at 10.3 dont need more shit being moved down. Mirage 3e is fine where its at but the s needs to be moved up. Along with a great number of super sonics at 10.3 that shouldnt be there like the mf/smt.