Everyone Gets Pure AP and HE 40 mm Belts. well- Except Sweden

Why does every nation get a “Standard” (stock) belt with mixed AP/HE, followed by two clean, pure, researchable belts, while one nation is apparently told “no, you will eat the soup as it comes”?

Across all WW2 vehicles equipped with the 40 mm Bofors L/60, this system is completely normal and consistent.

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“The CCKW 353 AA”, “M19A1(All nations)”, “M42 Duster(All nations)”, “Crusader AA Mk I” — all of them get a mixed stock belt and then two nice, organized, pure belts to research. Simple. Logical. Predictable.

Move forward in time to the Cold War and the 40 mm Bofors L/70, and the story does not change.
“AMX-13 DCA 40” and “M247 Sgt. York” follow the exact same structure. Mixed stock belt, then separate AP and HE belts. Nobody is losing sleep over this. Nobody is calling it overpowered. The world keeps spinning.

And then there’s that one nation.

You might ask, “What nation, karnitin75?”
You might even start warming up a take about Sweden OP SAP belts!!!

Relax.

Yes. It’s Sweden.

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Hold on.

If you want to nerf (or Help) Sweden. The Lvkv 42 and VEAK 40 should not get SAP-HEI because they are using the wrong ammunition historically. If SPAA with APHE upsets you, please direct your energy to the Lvakan 48 issue here: → Community Bug Reporting System
Now. Go, Shoo!


Anyway.

Now, for everyone still reading.

Sweden — the nation where the 40 mm Bofors is basically a cultural artifact Where Bofors is hailed as the nations most succesful contribution to the world in terms of weapons aside from Dynomite and The nobel price ofc… Does not get a single pure AP or pure HE belt. None. Zero. Zilch. Everything is mixed.

I can understand why the SAP belt wouldn’t be a full belt. Sure. Fair enough.
But at this point… it already basically is:

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I mean — look at it. It’s one round. One. Singular. Lone.
How hard could it be to just— AAAAAAA-
ahem
Sorry. My OCD needed a moment.

Anyway.

These are the belts Sweden Currently gets:

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Notice something?

There is no straight AP belt.
There is no straight HE belt.
Every single option is a mixed belt, as if organization itself was deemed too powerful.

Why?

There is no balance argument here. Having a HE-only belt and an AP-only belt is not some forbidden technology. Other 40 mm platforms already have them, and — shockingly — the game did not collapse. Yes, some of those vehicles are mobile. Yes, some are strong. But Swedish 40 mm platforms are not exactly speed demons, and they certainly aren’t known for their survivability.

So what’s the reason?

This isn’t a bug, which means it’s probably not something you can even bug-report. So what is the solution here? A suggestion post? A sacrifice to the snail? A polite, well-sourced rant?

And just to add to the confusion, for reference: the Lvkv 42 belts look exactly the same, while the VEAK 40 belts look like someone shuffled cards and called it a day.

VEAK 40 belts in question:

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HE / HE / HE / SAP ??

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AP-T / AP-T / AP-T / HE

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SAP / HE / SAP / HE ???

Like why?


What do you people think?

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I’d have to look in game, but I’d assume it has something to do with tracer rounds and gun leading.

Compared to later model L/70 which get either APFSDS(-T) or HE-VT (sans tracer) because of their intended target.

Looked at the wiki instead, yes, it has to do with tracers. They should have a no tracer option though as those rounds existed in service.