Eurofighter vs Rafale battlefield

Occam’s razor, the most simplest explanation is the most reasonable one. They most likely have a system that determines what bug reports get prioritized the most, and the system doesn’t take into account aircraft winrate.

What special treatment?

There are some reports regarding other fox-3 seekers that have no been implemented, such as:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QhYDPYj3LIRl

Only the MICA has been given a unique seeker, the rest are C&Ps (bar Aim-54s)

Do u know if Aim120C supposed to have the same as the A and B models?

Well id love to see that system, because the way i see it there is no system whatsoever when it comes to bug fixes.
Also the bug fixes are the secondary problem. The primary problem is that every bugfix makes an already extremely well performing plane even better. The fact that Gaijin has done nothing towards closing the gap and instead widened it with the fixes is the reason why people feel that theres a bias.

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While this should get fixed, it doesn’t point to “special treatment”. Note that there are missile developers, radar developers, flight model developers and etc.

You guys have been implying that the air team developers as a whole have either been conspiring to give special treatment to the Rafale and its armaments or that again, they subconsciously have a bias towards the Rafale. And this is without any direct evidence that would prove it to be true.

Again, there are larger things at play where we are not privy to their process.

Maybe?

Im not sure, there is some evidence of upgrades but im not sure there is direct evidence of what those upgrades would actually change.

Though there is evidence (and reports) for the A/B underperforming quite a bit and those would also translate over to the C5

But like rafale gets more updating than the eurofighter. Like the only recent thing I can recall that the devs updated on the eurofighter is just a hud coloring update (and it doesn’t work properly)

Where did they say this?

Well we know a few things when looking at statements from Smin and others.

  • Bug reports for vehicle/equipment made during its dev-server introduction usually gets prioritized.
  • Overwhelming amount of bug reports for a vehicle or an equipment can be prioritized for a rework.
  • Bug reports for a vehicle/equipment that is underperforming relative to its battle rating gets prioritized unless this fix would increase its battle-rating rather than allowing it to stay at its battle-rating

But beyond that, there isn’t much known concretely. From patterns though, we can see that air reports get fixed quicker than ground reports. Flight model reports get fixed the quickest usually, followed by radar reports, and then lastly missile reports. I haven’t looked too much into cockpit reports and how quick they get fixed.

Most air reports get fixed at the 1 year mark, with the overwhelming majority (~80%-90%) being fixed before the 2 year mark with a few slipped through beyond the 2 year mark especially if they want to keep a vehicle at a certain battle-rating.

Yep pretty much and they didnt even fix several notable bug regarding the cockpit/HUD at the same time, like the entire HUD is still squished.

Before that we got a partial radar overhaul in July which took us from the weakest radar at top tier to one of the better M-scans in theory, though its still a buggy mess with multiple open reports.

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They said it regarding the Gripen A when it was inquired, either David_Bowie said it or Smin did. But Smin can confirm this anyway if you take a screenshot of my post and ask Smin if it’s true.

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that still doesnt explain this

If it looks like bias, smells like bias and feels like bias then it might be just bias and not some obscure, hypothetical balance report priority system

Is it possible to filter a vehicle specific changes during updates?, would like to get a comparison of eurofighter & rafale

Yes its easy to dismiss it as bias since that is the easiest thing to do rather than investigate any further even if said “bias” would require more evidence of its existence than a priority system of bug reports which we know exists but we do not know how exactly it works.

Its a better explanation than some bug report priority system that somehow favors one of multiple top tier jets and ignores sometimes years old accepted reports.
And like i said another biased thing is that Gaijin is doing nothing to close the insane gap between the Rafale and its competitors.

It isn’t, we know there’s a bug report priority system. It exists. There’s no proof of bias. It’s a simpler explanation that the bug report priority system is not functioning how it’s supposed to. It’s not a new topic and work was done on my part to try and get them to focus more on implementing reports.

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Ofc there is, unique MICA seeker, bug reports being worked on in never seen before speed compared to literally everyone else (all buffs btw) and a complete domination of top tier which Gaijin does absolutely nothing against. How can you look at this and say “yeah thats just coincidence”?

A majority implemented reports were done when Rafale was new and underperforming in relation to the EFT. Keep in mind players were ripping their Rafales due to overspeed before they could even fire off a missile early on until they learned to work around it.

A lot of people are looking at the Rafale’s past month statistics while developers may be looking at all aircraft statistics for the past year, which included a rough time period early on for the Rafale. Again, it isn’t sensible to conclude “bias” without knowing the intricacies of the bug report priority system.

A lot of the developers are eastern europeans/russians and that sensibly could include developers from nations that have the EFT. Why would they be biased towards the Rafale? If you’re going to claim that there’s bias towards the Rafale atleast offer plausible explanations for simple questions that one may have for that claim.

You can’t claim this since statshark just goes back to Feb 2025 where 14 buffs had arrived for the Rafale in the dev-server patch, which constitutes majority of the buffs.

No, you provided actual examples where certain things have been implemented for the Rafale, that’s all. You haven’t demonstrated reasoning behind those implementations. The overall problem with your reasoning is that you went from Step 1 and 2 and skipped to Step 20 which we call making an assumption.

Why do you say hypothetical as if Smin hasn’t confirmed there is an actual system in where they prioritize bug reports for implementation?

So the Rafale being broken since it hit the live server is ok, because it was worse on the dev? Its still better than the EFT in every month we have stats for

I have provided examples where the Rafale gets prioritised, solely positive treatment compared to its peers. That and Gaijin completely ignoring the Rafales dominance of top tier is enough proof for most non france mains to make the assumption that the Rafale gets biased treatment. You have not brought up a single example to make a different or more likely assumption since you do not know how Gaijins bug priority works.
Also what kind of priority system would that be in the first place? I cant think of a system with the outcome we have right now