Its look like we will never get UK eurofighter with AESA radar British-made Typhoon production grinds to a halt raising fears about UK defence skills .
That has nothing to do with them getting an AESA radar
Since it’s been tested I don’t see why it can’t be in game. If it’s been tested it can be added. Maybe it won’t be in service but that shouldn’t matter, I didn’t actually read the article because paywall
This is the worst thing they did to Typhoon essentially made the engines cut out while turning at high speed.
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More fear mongering I think, the UK couldn’t expect customers like Turkey to purchase Typhoon while not backing the product themselves.
Buying F-35A would be a massive mistake.
Havent been playing the EFT much either, though a lot of that is cuz of all thr VR specific bugs. Occaisionally been taking it out in GFRB thats about it.
i think a lot of 4th gens need a nerf , they perform like tvc jets at low speeds without tvc.
They, do but they should still comfortably beat anything currently in game.
Typhoon and Rafale and Gripen
Have in mock dogfights beaten everything.
From F-22s (We know the Rafale footage and that F-22 pilot was trying hard)
Su-30MkII
F-15s
F/A-18
F-16s
They dine at the top table so while they may feel like they have TVC and are UFOs in game terms they are or were where they needed to be. And if you keep nerfing them then you need to also nerf the F-16, 25, 27 etc.
First of all they can absolutely sit on their engines, which is one of the main aspect of why they are so dominant in WT. they can sit inside most other jets turn circle and outstall them.
Second, the canards for the EFT are designed for post stall performance to compete with TVC with a lower overall cost, so that’s not surprising.
As for the Gripen and Rafale, they are used to increase lift at very low speed. The rafale for example has demonstrated the ability to remain controlled at sub 40kn and extreme AOA, meaning they still had sufficient airflow on the control surfaces…
However unlike TVC planes (and those with actually great TWR, like the f22 or later SU variants), they don’t have the ability to get instant turn from basically standstill, and it’s the case in game.
The su30sm still has insane post stall maneuverability, despite having much worse TWR.
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Agree, I do feel EFT have worser energy retention than Rafale. But my point still stands regarding the acceleration, EFT indeed still outaccelerate Rafale in every scenario, HOWEVER, due to how aggressive the enemy spamming AMRAAM to you, a good FM in defensive flight would be great, which something that EFT doesn’t have.
EFT should’ve also had those magical Mach 2 top speed like Rafale, yeah indeed it makes the game way worser because we had a F-15E situation again, but this time is actually for real due to how well Typhoon gain a speed at altitude.
Idk, my hopium is when the AESA Typhoon came, maybe they would indeed fix the FM. But idk when that time would come, either next 2 minor update before the winter, or worse, in winter update. Since we also still don’t have Gripen E and some other 14.0 Aircraft for like China and Japan.
EFT isn’t all that bad if it weren’t for either that boat turning, or the CAPTOR Fish Radar.
There’s also a whole host of just little things that they don’t seem to want to fix and all of them are just… Annoying.
Also the other big one which Thankfully doesn’t affect me, but the aircraft is basically unplayable if you have VR.
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That its totally a lie. Long arm canards are not for post stall. People should stop lying about the Eurofighter like some people are doing with the RAFALE. The AMK was develop exactly because the plane has problem with that kind of maneuvers. The vortex generate by the canards on Eurofighter its busting before it even touch the wing.
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Those Canards and intake arrangement were designed with future TVC in mind. He’s not wrong.
Yea the intake are the most effective for that kind of planes. And the Gripen use the worst type. But the canards and TVC has nothing to do with them. I have read the paper about Eurofighter TVC. And the canards are never mentioned. That kind of canard are mostly for High speed. The angle IMO its so it don’t block the pilot view. What they share with Close coupled canards its that they lower the wing loading of the plane.
The Eurofighter with TVC would have be a really good plane. That paper on the TVC for it talk about a lot of benefic; Better STR, ITR, Less drag and even better Thrust. Why they never implemented them? money i guess.
And to be honest. whether it was even needed.
In an era of long ranged BVR combat and advanced IR missiles that dont even need line of sight. Is raw dogfighting performance really that big of a deal? Sure for War Thunder it would have been awesome, but when whatever is trying to dogfight you just got splashed by an ASRAAM long before it even got in range to fire its own IR missile, having TVC engines on the already excellent EFT FM is just a tad bit overkill>
(though curse them for not building a full prototype to be suggested to the devs :P )
the cold war was over so ig they thought it wasn’t necessary ?.
My limited understanding is that TVC engines produce less thrust, do you happen to have that paper on standby?