You can say all of the above - yet our esteemed fellow forumite seems determined to try to nerf the EFT by making up extra weight…
Yeah… its funny how much they want to artificially nerf the Typhoon. Clearly they a worried about loosing their OP status when the EFT finally catches up and overtakes it like it should
They’d best be careful what they wish for. The French main community has form for these things spectacularly backfiring…
Yeah, they do. Would be really funny if they ended up giving us a weight reduction. It is potentially 220 kg too heavy, but that is unlikely to get fixed
Though it would probably jsut take someone submitting a “it feels too heavy” report with no sources at all and it would get nerfed like what happened to the Fox/Scimitar and what almost happeend to the PW4 or the nonsense with BOL in the first place
Wait a min… I just need to type up a report for the Rafale along those lines. Be back in a bit…
No sources state that the Rafale can take off without it’s wings falling off due to dubious build quality. Nerf overload limit to 0.5G.
Weight supplied by the manual does not include pilot’s Baguette Collection stored behind ejector seat. Increase weight by 300kg.
Rafale MAWS obviously does not work against PL-12s or similar sized weapons. Suggest MAWS does not activate for anything larger than a firework bought from B&Q.
Am I getting the sort of vibe we might need?
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No sources on that
Rafale also has its own reports and probably by a bigger margin (smaller plus ducted air intakes)
No sources on that (compared to rafale which has sources for that)
Equivalent reports on the rafale
Equivalent report for MICA for the first one, and no report for the A/B/C5 for the second point (or I missed it). AIM120D fixes that tho. Still don’t know why EFT misses it still
Same for Magic 2
In this case, I claim the missing spectral flares
Same for rafale - rafale also should always have max speed scan since it isn’t mechanical. Currently the EFT does still benefit from high scan rate across the entire ESA + mech spectrum
Would probably be under a different variant. None of these have been officially tested either AFAIK, so it’d be like me claiming the Rafale F5
Yes for all of them, and rafale doesn’t really have equivalents as of now.
Basically, almost all the reports you claimed would make the EFT catch up and overtakes the rafale “as it should” have equivalent for the Rafale (and Rafale also has a few more).
The EFT has loads of issues, Rafale as well. Honestly I don’t really see the point of either side victimizing themselves.
Yes the rafale was extremely strong when it was added. But it wasn’t the first time something wrecked lobbies. It just so happened that for once the powercreep was not favoring a main nation.
The rafale could have been nerfed on release maybe, but I also want to remind y’all that when the rafale and EFT were added the EFT also stomped on any other vehicles. Only the F15E could somewhat compete, and it was already a significant powercreep over the other jets
Instead of crying about which vehicle should have been nerfed more, we should maybe ask wether the EFT and rafale additions were good at all. Both planes were added way too early. The German should have gotten the F18 to give them a decent ARH platform and gaijin should have worked on actually improving gen 4 mechanics before adding Gen 4.5. This would have made the addition of the rafale, EFT and even SM2 much more bearable
Lets just not bring up that dilemma
Also, I called it
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Could’ve been worse. They WERE going to call it the Spitfire II.
Which would’ve been fun…
Actually @vizender is probably correct - we need to cease such childishness. Let us get back to tackling the true enemy - the feckless US/RU Mains…
Yeah right buddy. Keep making scenarios in your head
I think the best thing we can do is try to come to an understanding that the EF and Raf are equals, some are better in some regards, some are better in others.
And move the F-14A IRIAF up to 14.3 just to make sure.
Just having some fun. Look it up sometime.
Looks fine to me. Also only give it AIM9B
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I mean, thats the reason of this thread, so that the Eurofighter/Rafale fight isnt clocking up the normal plane threads
When I lock it up. I see both UK and us above Rus.
Yeah, but all of the victimization arguments are just repeated again and again, which is just annoying. This thread should have remained dead imo
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The average IQ of a top-tier US or RU team is not really the fault of the EFT or the Rafale is it?
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I’ve seen enough, release the PL-15
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Crazy the amount of games where I see f18, f15 and su30 that keep flying straight and shooting all of their missiles in the first salvo and dying to easily defendable positions
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