Eurofighter vs Rafale battlefield

They said it regarding the Gripen A when it was inquired, either David_Bowie said it or Smin did. But Smin can confirm this anyway if you take a screenshot of my post and ask Smin if it’s true.

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that still doesnt explain this

If it looks like bias, smells like bias and feels like bias then it might be just bias and not some obscure, hypothetical balance report priority system

Is it possible to filter a vehicle specific changes during updates?, would like to get a comparison of eurofighter & rafale

Yes its easy to dismiss it as bias since that is the easiest thing to do rather than investigate any further even if said “bias” would require more evidence of its existence than a priority system of bug reports which we know exists but we do not know how exactly it works.

Its a better explanation than some bug report priority system that somehow favors one of multiple top tier jets and ignores sometimes years old accepted reports.
And like i said another biased thing is that Gaijin is doing nothing to close the insane gap between the Rafale and its competitors.

It isn’t, we know there’s a bug report priority system. It exists. There’s no proof of bias. It’s a simpler explanation that the bug report priority system is not functioning how it’s supposed to. It’s not a new topic and work was done on my part to try and get them to focus more on implementing reports.

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Ofc there is, unique MICA seeker, bug reports being worked on in never seen before speed compared to literally everyone else (all buffs btw) and a complete domination of top tier which Gaijin does absolutely nothing against. How can you look at this and say “yeah thats just coincidence”?

A majority implemented reports were done when Rafale was new and underperforming in relation to the EFT. Keep in mind players were ripping their Rafales due to overspeed before they could even fire off a missile early on until they learned to work around it.

A lot of people are looking at the Rafale’s past month statistics while developers may be looking at all aircraft statistics for the past year, which included a rough time period early on for the Rafale. Again, it isn’t sensible to conclude “bias” without knowing the intricacies of the bug report priority system.

A lot of the developers are eastern europeans/russians and that sensibly could include developers from nations that have the EFT. Why would they be biased towards the Rafale? If you’re going to claim that there’s bias towards the Rafale atleast offer plausible explanations for simple questions that one may have for that claim.

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You can’t claim this since statshark just goes back to Feb 2025 where 14 buffs had arrived for the Rafale in the dev-server patch, which constitutes majority of the buffs.

No, you provided actual examples where certain things have been implemented for the Rafale, that’s all. You haven’t demonstrated reasoning behind those implementations. The overall problem with your reasoning is that you went from Step 1 and 2 and skipped to Step 20 which we call making an assumption.

Why do you say hypothetical as if Smin hasn’t confirmed there is an actual system in where they prioritize bug reports for implementation?

So the Rafale being broken since it hit the live server is ok, because it was worse on the dev? Its still better than the EFT in every month we have stats for

I have provided examples where the Rafale gets prioritised, solely positive treatment compared to its peers. That and Gaijin completely ignoring the Rafales dominance of top tier is enough proof for most non france mains to make the assumption that the Rafale gets biased treatment. You have not brought up a single example to make a different or more likely assumption since you do not know how Gaijins bug priority works.
Also what kind of priority system would that be in the first place? I cant think of a system with the outcome we have right now

so your problem is actually the in-game results?

Yes? What else would be the problem?

so you’re trying to justify adding nerfs to Rafale, because of in-game results?

i know you all are edgy, since it’s a french aircraft that is (finally) on top of the game,…
but this is none-sense,… Gaijin modeled a Rafale F.3R, and we do have Bug-reporters that works to have it in full.

EFT being worse than /or/ better than Rafale doesn’t gives any rights to give artificial buffs or nerfs,…

you think EFT is not good enough : Make bug-reports,… found real-data/values/charts.

the current EFT is having what it should have,… (apart missiles, which is a thing that everyone don’t have fully yet)

I mean its a game and games are supposed to be balanced so yes that would be one way to reinstitute balance into the game. The other would be to buff its competitors, which i (and literally everyone else) would also be fine with.

Its not on top of the game, its playing a completely different game than everyone else. I get that you like your broken vehicle, because being better than everyone is fun and all but its hardly healthy for the game.

No one said anything about artificial, theres a ton of active bug reports that would buff the Rafales competitors but sadly they dont get the luxury fast lane ticket the Rafale seems to have for its reports.

I dont think that the EFT is not good enough. The EFT and all other 14.0s/14.3s ARE not good enough to compete vs the Rafale thats just blatantly obvious.

The EFT and the Rafale both came in the December patch, the majority of the Rafale buffs came in the patch after, Hornet’s Sting (March patch).

Let’s get something clear here, I am not in disagreement that the Rafale has gotten more reports fixed than any other aircraft in the past year or so. We’re just in disagreement on why.

Prior to the addition of the Rafale, the French bug reporting team understood two things. Gaijin prioritized bug reports that were made around the time of a vehicle’s introduction, and that Gaijin prioritized vehicle/equipment that had an overwhelming amount of bug reports. With this in mind we spammed reports for the Rafale to the point it had more than 50 reports open before March knowing Gaijin would implement a good amount regardless of balance. Some reports that could have been made in a single individual report were instead stretched and divided into multiple different reports to inflate the # of open reports in order to game the bug report prioritization system.

To attribute the in-game performance of the Rafale to developer bias when taking this into context is quite foolish.

great so the Rafale was already better by every metric in february and then it got hit by a massive buff wave in march. Like thats literally part of the general complaint dude that it was already insanely good and then got even better and no one on the same br got anything to cope with that.

So according to you Gaijin prioritized the Rafales bug reports, because you guys spammed the reporting system? That would be a terrible and abusable system then and its probably bs anyway since the chinese community spams the shit out of every bug with their vehicles and they dont get fixed any faster.

No the in game performance is realistic for the standard we have in game, that is not the bias. The bias is that Gaijin is completely comfortable with fixing (buffing) the Rafale vastly faster than its peers, modeling a unique seeker for only its missiles and letting it dominate top tier unopposed while leaving every other top tier plane in the dirt. Because their bug fixes take forever and their missiles are copy and paste sidegrades.

The majority of buffs came in February, not March.

Yes, I already think it’s a terrible system that they have and instead they should move to a system where all reports are prioritized to be worked on in less than a year of its submission, rather than prioritizing bug reports for new vehicles, or for vehicles that contain numerous reports. This same system is why older vehicles/equipments are not worked on as most would like to see. This same system also encourages developers to ignore bug reports if they like where the vehicle sits.

The Chinese don’t actually have a lot of reports that are accepted and open, and also made early on within a vehicle’s introduction to the game. They may make a lot of reports but they get shut down more often due to lack of sufficient sources.

The only bias that exists are that new contents are prioritized for bug reports and old contents are ignored for multitude of reasons (reasons that I think are not justifiable). Anything else is speculatively wrong.

Does it actually matter? February was 8 months ago, since then the Rafale is proven to be vastly better than every single competitor and Gaijin is doing nothing to fix the situation.

Your reasoning why the Rafale gets fixes so fast is completely speculative as well. If new bugs are fixed faster then the EFT should be at least as fast as the Rafales fixes especially with all the internal reports.
And still none of the bug report discussion excuses the MICA and Gaijins complete unwillingness to act upon the imbalance in top tier.

Yes it does. Because it clarifies that the majority of the buffs was not from a time period where the Rafale was “dominating” atleast statistic wise. Was it actually the best or atleast second best back then? Yes it was. But statistic wise we’re not sure where it sat.

Blame the dumb content cycle where they’re trying to save more top tier air additions for the end of the year, which leaves a lot of players without a viable contender. I would also say blame the people who requested the Rafale/EFT when the game was not in a place to be introduced.

This ignores that the EFT DID get some fixes as well, just not as much as the Rafale did but there’s a clearer reason why. When I privately inquired a Gaijin staff, they stated that including the internal reports, the Rafale had 90 reports open and the EFT had 66 open. This was back in late March. Note that the Rafale had another 14+ reports open prior to that discussion when the fixes had arrived, so the Rafale had over 100 reports open in Feb. While the EFT’s # of open reports was considerable, Rafale’s # of open reports was considerably greater (~100 vs 66).

The Rafale had the most open reports, and thus got the most fixes. The EFT had the 2nd most open reports, and thus got the 2nd most fixes.