In the current meta, absolutely.
As I said the Typhoon is fast, thats really it’s strength.
But being fast isnt enough, Su-30 and Rafale are the meta.
Go and play some games of air RB and see what jets are at the top of leaderboards. Before Typhoon it was F-15E…Now the game play has shifted players dont fly as high making 120 shots far less effective.
Su-30 and Rafale have taken the spot from the F-15E.
Typhoon has remember 6 120s with a poor Radar.
Rafale is superior to Typhoon in every way. It’s as fast, has a far better Radar, superior turn rate and excellent missiles in both MICA and Magic 2.
Su-30 is slower than both but it makes up for it with a new longer range R-77-1 a fantastic Radar and 12 ARHM with 2 R-73s. It can turn surprisingly well and pull as much AOA as a Typhoon.
Typhoon in comparison carries 6 120s as it’s maximum payload.
Now if Typhoons Radar and FM were buffed to the correct levels then yes it would be once again up there.
This is how I can tell that you don’t have a clue what you are talking about, or that you are being incredibly disingenuous. It has a longer range when fired using the same conditions (in BVR this won’t happen, the Typhoon will always have the advantage), against a non manoeuvring target (which would be killed by literally everything at that point.
And that’s not bad at all.
The FM is already incredible, and every radar is trash because of gaijins recent updates.
Jokes aside statshark is not actually lying here. The only real misleading thing is the canberra is on 10% fuel but at that fuel load it actually rates better than the rafale.
Weaker missiles (in most fights that im in when flying the EFT, you are talking about sub 20km, AMRAAM barely holds any meaningful advantage at those kinds of ranges, but is much weaker in a WVR fight compared to the R-77-1)
Less Missiles
Su-30SM vs Typhoon in any fight where the Typhoon doesnt just have the overwhelming advantage (like being 10-20k ft higher) is a pretty one-sided fight because the SU-30SM will just intercept your missiles with their own and quite happily keep you at range on defensive.
If the Fight then goes WVR, you still have to watch out as the Typhoon only has missiles good in rear-aspect and they need a clean shot, ideally from not that close. R-73 doesnt care about that and will quite happily do HOBS.
A number of times in the past few days ive been in fights vs the Su-30SM in SB and simply not been able to do anything to begin with because my radar simply could never find the target. Doesnt matter how good an FM the Typhoon might have, if I have 12x R-77-1s coming at me and all I can do is try and defeat them all using BOL chaff (which is artificially nerfed) and my FM (which is artificially nerfed) and completely and entirely unable to even fire back.
What we want isnt some OP monster that just wins the fight the moment in enters the fray. What we want is the aircraft’s IRL performance and the ability to at least fight back in a BVR fight. An Option rarely available without spending a good few minutes setting up every advantage and coaxing the radar to just find the target (i literally spend more time managing the radar than I do doing anything else in SB. its insane how much babysitting it needs for basic shots and even then I find myself just giving up and using ACM to hard lock the target rather than doing anything else)
Longer range means a higher burn time, which with the R-77-1 makes it a deadlier missile. Did I say im getting routinely sniped by a 60km R-77-1?
No what I said is the meta has changed and we are now fighting at lower altitudes and at closer ranges.
At those distances the R-77-1 and the MICA are superior to the 120.
No other 14.0 airframe carries 6 ARHM. If we are comparing apples to apples it is a disadvantage.
120 isnt a lethal unavoidable doom stick. Which means your BVR payload becomes weaker.
Close range the 9M as mentioned is not in the same realms as an R-73/Magic 2/MICA etc.
Its FM is incredible…it’s fast thats really it.
Its acceleration has been nerfed. Its pulls as much G as a gen 4.
Radar is terrible really bad (yes this isnt exclusive to Typhoon) But Typhoon has never had a working Radar. And now rivals are receiving PESA/AESA Radars it will only go downhill for Typhoon.
You have not a shred of a counter point to this.
Typhoon is not the meta, Radar and small fm changes would help it.
