Somehow I forgot that the Su-30 can also carry a lot of R-73s for the same purposes…
Where is my Su-24 with Stormshadow? :D Oh wait. There is no TT for this Su-24 yet…
Oh its fine if they are russian/pro-russian pictures of the war in ukraine, ive been able to post those, as have others. What generally isnt fine seems to be ukrainian/pro-ukrainian stuff, like posting an in-cockpit pic of a ukrainian M2K shooting down a cruise missile
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Its because they are marketing lies :P
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The IRIS-T should be able to do so, and to my understanding can be slaved to intercept threats via DASS. Its ability to be used as self protection for the aircraft from hostile AAM/SAM is stated explicitly pretty much all over.
As for other missiles ability to do so, I have seen tactics manuals for tornados stating firing off a 9L can be used as a last resort against a hostile missile iirc, but afaik none of the other IRAAM’s in use explicitly state aircraft self protection via hostile missile interception to be a feature or expected role for the missile.
On the flip side, it also gives the IRIS-T a niche over the ASRAAM/MICA, which both are faster and longer ranged.
I’m more talking about manual missile launch for interception.
It still works on live, but only if the missile’s engine is still running. I don’t know if there was a missile heating feature on Dev, so I’ll have to test it on live.
If the missile heats up enough to be targeted by a thermal missile at least at half the distance at which the guidance works with the engine running, then it will be a good tool.
is the ASRAAM similar to IRIS-T/Aim9x?
MICA EM maybe?
But faster and of course with an IIR Seeker
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I would rather emphasize that ASRAAM has MUCH less resistance than MIСА. Because MIСА has very aggressive fins, while ASRAAM has almost none.
And their engines, in my opinion, are similar in energy.
So is the ASRAAM less maneuverable?
No, it is quite maneuverable, because 100% of its aerodynamics (not counting the supporting fuselage) are rotary rudders. That is, as I think, it can simply turn itself in the flow as if it had a thrust vector and simply push itself into a turn using the brute force of the engine.
There is information on the Internet that the declared maximum overload of ASRAAM is 50g. For example, there is the A-Darter missile. It is made according to a similar aero scheme, but it has a thrust vector. And here it reaches 100g of overload.
you would get su-24 from another side… with bomb
I believe Sean was asking if it was LESS maneuverable in relation to the MICA rather than if it is maneuverable or not.
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Wheres your corgis?
Oh, yeah. Sorry. I messed up. I believe it will be more or less the same. Maybe a little less sharp on maneuvers, but the G-force in a turn should be very close.
The biggest strength of the ASRAAM is also going to be one of its biggest weaknesses.
It’s speed off the rails.
It will be one of the most deadly missiles to anything in front of it, but will have one of the larger turning radiuses for off-boresight shots because of its speed. Will still do it, but will take twice as long than something like IRIS-T will
One has thrust vectoring and one doesn’t though. Derby and R-73 are both “40G” but one is more maneuverable than the other for a reason (thrust-vectoring). ASRAAM is claimed to be 50G in line with MICA EM, but one has TVC.
ASRAAM probably does hit 50Gs but just because of the forces applied to it from its speed.
MICA meanwhile probably pulls the same amount because of its TVC throwing it around the corner and will probably have the smaller turning radius as well.
Yes, the issue here is at what speed this overload is achieved. My honest answer is “I don’t know”. I can only repeat what I wrote above - MIСA will be sharper in a turn. But I have no data on how much sharper.
This is unbelievable on gaijin’s behalf, why should we have to ‘earn’ the right to a competitive amount of fox-3s while russian aircraft are allowed dual pylons from the Su-35, allowing them to carry double the amount of current typhoon while remaining as feasible irl as MRPL pylon AMRAAMs.
Hopefully we get them at some point soon, since the only time I reckon we could see 8 fox-3s on a Eurofighter is when we have an F-15ex with 20
(Not a jab at gunjob, just a little rant about the balancing devs)
Don’t forget that MICA has a guidance delay of only 0.15 seconds before it starts turning whereas most other missiles are between 0.35 seconds and 0.5 seconds, the sooner you can start pulling, the tighter the turn radius. I will be interested in seeing the guidance delay of the ASRAAM once it comes into the game as that can determine its turning radius as well.
If they give it AIM-9M’s guidance delay, that would be 0.4 seconds.
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