Wait you are suggesting to add tranche 4 ?
British Eurofighters had AESA fitted before Italian and German ones, AESA could be integrated as soon as Tranche 2, you don’t need to build a new plane to replace the radar, only Tranche 1 couldn’t fit it because of physical constraints.
So all British/German/Italian T2+ Eurofighters will get AESA radars, not only T4.
Rafale has gotten HMD and 8x MICA from a much later variant. Heck, should really have come with PESA not AESA on this first variant. I dont think it would be unreasonable to add CAPTOR-E if the CAPTOR-M cannot be salvaged.
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How so ? Which tranche, as far as i get it only tranche 4 will bring aesa for the eurofighter, only some countries decided to have aesa in their plane despite being like tranche 3 ?
Most people play in air rb where the aesa radar of the rafale bring nothing, a good radar like the one of the mirage 2k5f would be enough by far, it will for sure be useful for the eurofighter as it has 80km range on it’s amram.
And well you know well about the hmd, you can’t go full historical, it would change a lot of things in this game and the missiles numbers are historical, there was no update needed to carry them.
I could find these 2 sources saying that the AESA radar is to be retrofitted into T2 and T3 German Typhoons 1 and 2 and also here on the radar maker site it says a large scale retrofit will take place for T2 and T3 probably for both Germany and Spain.
Also the UK has no EF on order so of course they’ll retrofit them, only Italy has no news of retrofitting but they are buying new EF so i think those will have AESA.
But that is small comfort for anyone who doesnt play ARB. In gamemodes like ASB or GSB. The Typhoon has a major handicap. I was relying more on the Mk2 eyeball than I was on my radar to find targets or even IFF them when I did yesterday in GSB
The AESA on the EF would honestly be god like, besides having that insane scan volume the rafale already enjoys the AESA on the EF would have an even bigger azimuth limit because the AESA can be turned so you could notch while still tracking your target.
Yeah for sure you don’t feel it that much in Air RB, and if gaijin adds some sort of priority track like the Captor-M is supposed to have it would be quite good in ARB.
But in all other RB/Sim modes it’s just bad, ill always look for someone in GRB and SIM before I’d even try to use my radar to find them, it’s insanely bad at finding targets.
I doubt they will model this properly as it would require spinning the radar on a gimbal because it is at an angle… can’t exactly TWS track a target on the maximum left and right limits at the same time like the Rafale could without rapidly spinning the radar.
Perhaps it is constantly spinning, I do not know, but this will put a further limitation on the radar TWS update speed compared to other AESA if the targets require 180 degree spin for the radar to have the necessary gimbal limit right?
My assumption is they will model it with the expanded limits but without the drawbacks or they will not model it at all.
You are just over thinking it. It would function like a normal AESA radar in every respect, but can just be angled. When angled fully it would function the exact same as the Rafale does, but off to one side. Like it does with any other radar
I don’t think I am over-thinking it, Gaijin is notorious for not modeling these kinds of things because it requires more complexity than an already simple albeit buggy model.
ECRS Mk.2 requires more power / cooling than all the other radars, so it can only be fitted as a drop in upgrade to Tranche 3 aircraft (which were built with ECRS Mk.2 in mind). It is technically possible to retrofit ECRS Mk.2 to Tranche 2 jets, but they need a more extensive retrofit and IIRC neither Britain or Italy have confirmed their intention to do that yet.
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Except its already modeled, On most aircraft
No, nothing in-game has an electronic scan combined with a mechanical gimbal. I am simply stating that Gaijin likely won’t model the electronic steering limits on a gimbal properly thus they will either ignore them or not model the additional gimbal at all. Likely the former.
How fast CAPTOR-M scan speed should look like i wonder?
same rate as Tornado F3?
No. F3 actually has a bugged Scan rate of 160 deg/s, but should only be 80 deg/s.
CAPTOR-M is due a buff from 65 deg/s to 70 deg/s due to data from the Blue VIxen, but im still of the personal opinion it should be higher than that and I do think that maybe they should buff it to more like 80 deg/s if data cant be found specifically for CAPTOR-M (I think 80 or so deg/s would “feel” better more than anything else).
The radar pedastal at the very least can be moved at 333 deg/s and whilst the scan rate wont be anywhere near that high. I think a “reasonable” scan rate could be picked anywhere between 70 deg/s and about 100 deg/s and it wouldnt be entirely unrealistic. Given what it faces, it wouldnt exactly be over strong either.
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Most likely which ever nerfs the Typhoon. Is par the course for non- US/USSR nations
I don’t know any other aircraft with mechanically scanned AESA so I think this one will be limited to the Typhoon but historically Russia seemed to be hit by quite a few more “nerfs” intentionally than other nations but it’s still a mixed bag. A lot of pros and cons, hard to say without a comprehensive list of historical issues which one is better or worse.
