Unless they limit it to 6 missiles, this method would be the busted method I mentioned above. And adding such a limit would be a first for gaijin. Also they stated a while ago that they didn’t want to add seeker modes who could see through smoke for the discussion around the FnF hellfire
I believed I already shared the following PowerPoint a while ago. It was for the first iteration of MMW brimstones I believe. While the technology might have evolved, I don’t see how MMW radar as, especially in the small form factor of the brimstone, could accurately differentiate different types of target aside from maybe a big vehicle (like a Tank or large wheeled IFV) to a small target like a car. This could realistically be done with man in the loop from the plane designating certain areas for the missile to look at (and not the area where the friendlies are), but this is also something Gaijin currently doesn’t plan to add
Actually yeah, it kinda needs to be able to use ATR in order to be launched in the Pre-Programmed mode, because it needs to tell the difference to accurately target different vehicles using its seeker.
I think things like targeting dead tanks, TKs, etc etc are being blown massively out of proportion. And if AASM can get moving target tracking and KH-38 can get an IIR seeker at all. Then giving Brimstones IFF seems like a trivial addition assuming they have any form of LOAL at all
Tbf this also doesn’t say much. The TV contrast seekers used on the Maverick are also pure optical image, and yet, unless we are speaking of the most modern seekers, almost none have sufficient image quality to determine friend or foe. That is also considering that the missile carries an internal library of different vehicles (I honestly dont know).
The Ukrainian front is completely different from War Thunder. First of all, in many cases, you’ll see allied and enemy vehicles at least several miles away. Secondly, the Ukrainian theater is usually large plains with the only targets to be picked by radars being the targets you want to shoot. They also probably use Man In the Loop configuration, and/or terminal phase radar guidance, which is currently a no no for Gaijin.
Real life performances doesn’t equal war thunder performances.
Not all of it, it has been used to target convoys from trucks and they don’t go for burned out vehicles. I am well aware real life performance, but then why are we making bug reports to try and get real life performance for aircraft? Games realistic or it isn’t
I really am curious how that “staggered algorithm” works, the missiles don’t talk to each other no?
So the other missiles need to be able to identify that a vehicle has already been struck in order to not hit the same targets again.
I’ll be honestly interested to have the source you have for that. Is it that there were enough brimstone that even if a brimstone hit the same vehicle twice, multiple convoys could still be hit ? Or do they have staggered mechanisms to not target the same targets at the same time ?
Still, I don’t think they rely on detecting dead and alive vehicles (unless the truck was destroyed enough it didn’t ressemble a vehicle anymore, which is completely likely as well).
There’s no issues talking about real life performances of different systems. It’s just that Gaijin has implemented different rules (strictly or not), that would make the addition of certain armements dubious. The Brimstone is a pure demonstration of that. Adding it in it’s actual usable state would make it busted (which we dont need with the kh38mt already being such a problem), and break many such rules that Gaijin defined (no see through smokes, no man in the loop…).
Even added as a simple FnF weapon, if not limited to 6, it would be extremely annoying. And I don’t think Gaijin ever made such a rule for a type of weaponry
I personally dont see any addition of the Brimstone MMW being balanced in the slightest - either busted or trash. That’s why I think Spear would be a much better addition overall in the game
putting r-73 in the same breath as 9x and iris-t, of course it’s going to be much worse. r-74m2 is the equivalent of these missiles in the game, not the base r-73
Doesn’t it also has an IIR seeker ? This way, if implemented in this mode, it would be compatible with the game’s current top missiles. Better than the AASM, probably better than the kh38 ?
