No, the American equivalent does but that one has no engine as it’s built on the SBD.
It’s a Spice 250 equivalent, which the EF could get, maybe…
fairs, also the k-30 (russia’s canceled next gen ir missile, that got rebooted into k-md/k-300m) looks kinda like an asraam
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No, same seeker as Brismtoen but with GPS
Huh, always thought SPEAR used a tri mode IIR, MMW Laser guidance system… Welp, I guess the same MMW issues arises as well
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I really don’t think gaijin will withhold MMW for long anymore after these new systems get in, at the latest we’ll see it next year i think.
Some news sources likely confused “multi-mode” with tri-mode seeker used on US weapons
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#Eurofightercockpitmatters
the day see through smoke missiles are added will be the death of GRB. KH38MT already is on the fence (especially for countries that dont get modern SAMs cough cough), but playing tanks is getting harder and harder.
Can you imagine that recently I have been only playing the rafale in CAP mode, or at worst took only some laser AASM, because that’s the only reliable way of dealing with su30sm and ka52 spam (MICA for su30 and AASM for Ka 50 does wonders) (especially when GER and RU are together). Can’t remember last time I played the IR AASM lol, I find it far less reliable since its so slow, it’s often shot out of the air (especially by Pantsir)
i mean the solution is to extend the max br of planes in GRB to 1.3 higher than the ground vehicles themselves
If they don’t want to limit them to 6 they just need to switch to quantity based SP cost for AGM, and they’ll 100% make MMW more expensive than IR AGMs anyway.
Ways to make it work are there, and i know gaijin won’t make the same mistake as with the KH, well you know why.
Btw vizender i saw you in a match once, you don’t need to be that scared in the Rafale of the SLM, just pop out at more than 10km and launch on the SLM, they can’t intercept Hammers reliably because of the trajectory. Plenty of KH slingers dog on even the SLM, the rafale can do the same.
Or such weapons could be limited to PVE only. I personally enjoy quite a lot doing PVE in air sim, it’s just that it’s not actually worth it compared to actual PVP in terms of rewards. I think this game as a lot of potential for actual fun PVE scenarios but it’s. Stuck with those 10 years old game mode that are not only getting stale but also worse as the game evolves beyond the gamemodes capabilities. That SEAD event was a great start imo, I hope they’ll capitalize on it
True, this could happen as they already are changing the way SP is calculated for planes. They could also first start by reducing the SP cost of fox 3s for CAP ahah
Maybe, but SAL Hellfires vs AASM and KH-38MTs is not a fair fight in GRB
Ehh… it’s not that bad, even SAL only brimstones are very versatile, and i enjoy them a lot, you’re anti everything with them.
But if they really don’t want to give FnF brim, at least Brim 2 SAL with the new spaa.
Brimstone 2s should have been what we had 8 months ago. Brimstone 1s is just BS. Heck, with no MMW, the Tornado Gr4 should have also gotten Brimstone 2s
I think the AASM is not nearly as bad as what you make it to be (although I’m biased as someone that uses them more than I am on the receiving end). It’s only better than the Maverick in its explosive mass, but its also much slower and easy to shot out of the sky with a huge smoke trail (unless you are British with no actual SAM to take it out, which is why I kinda get you, but it also applies to the Maverick). The main culprit here is the kh38, and in the end only the Russian have access to it. While I don’t play the eurofighter, I’ve seen some people doing some very impressive things which let me believe it’s still one of the better option out there, even in the current META (behind the SU30SM, F15E and Rafale, but better than the others).
I personally think that the issue is not « the KH38 and AASM are busted, we need to add Brimstone in a more correct way » which would make it probably busted and even worse for top tier, but that the issue really is « The AASM and KH38MT are busted, how can we make them less busted, and give counterparts to others ». In this case, giving new SAMs to everyone and making them more reliable at destroying weapons would be a good start to nerf them. As for adding equivalents, the AGM for the US and other planes that carry it is already a thing. For the EFT, its harder imo (since SPEAR is not the thing I expected), unless the Brimstone is modeled in a specific but still wrong way.
As to why I don’t think we need to add anything more busted than the KH38MT as it is now, is that I think we are reaching a limit to what ground vehicles can do with how the game currently works. I think more powerful weapons should be reserved to specific roles, such as HARM, and that current A2G weaponry is currently sufficient to destroy ground teams, so there’s no need to add more.
Realistically, I think limiting the Brimstone MMW to a pure FnF missile, with no see through smoke, and to 6-10 max for a plane (since its explosive mass is lower than AASM and KH38MT, more missiles could be fair), or have the SP cost change dynamically (and exponentially) as more A2G weapons are added, is what would be acceptable in my opinion without ruining ground more than it already is.
It also has better range and IOG.
(Why everyone forgets about how good IOG on a missile is just confuses me)
Its easy. if no MMW. The bare minimum is just giving us historically accurate variant of the Brimstone. The Brimstone 2. The 200% increased range would actually make them far more forgiving to use. Couple with a number of outstanding Brimstone buffs, like massively reducing its IOG drift it would be fine.
Couple that with GPS or SAL+GPS Spear-3s to give us something like GBU-39s and we’d be fine without MMW for now. But Brimstone 1s (a variant of Brimstone never carried by the Typhoon), with no FnF and in an underperfroming state. Just sucks.
I really odnt get Gaijin stance on not just giving Brimstone an IIR seeker.
They invent a seeker for the AJ168
The IIR Seeker for the KH-38MT is a mockup nothing more
They artificially nerf BOL to the point of near uselessness
and yet refuse to add any form of FnF to an iconically FnF weapon
But yes. No one is expecting 18x FnF weapons. 6 at the same cost as everyone else is the minimum. Ideally with exponetial SP costs for more. (maybe 9 as a min on the GR4 because its a much weaker platform)
IOG is very good. Range is also better, but with the last major, it’s also not sufficiently better anymore that it actually matters. Previously, when locking at Pantsir with IR I was basically inside their firing range to get a got TRCK lock (12-14km). So only the Pantsir was a threat, but I could survive the encounter easily (although they often shot down 3 to even all 6 AASM before they reached them). With the update, there is several things that make the AASM IR much less compelling when SLM, SLAMRAAM and other long range SAM are in game :
- I have noticed some issues at range to get a POINT lock, basically needing to smash the lock button 5 or 6 times to finally get a lock, which is a huge time waste (it tries to TRCK, fails, turns seeker off, and I need to try again)
- The AASM is a very slow missile. When fired in POINT mode, even with great IOG, it takes a significant amount of time to reach the 15, 20 or even more km distance you have to fire them at if you dont want to die from the SLM. That means that one of the three things usually happen : The missile gets shot down very easily, the SAM has moved 20m and the AASM doesn’t pick it up in TRCK mode, or the SAM already died 2 minutes ago
All in all, in the past few months, I’ve only played the AASM IR in uncontested matches (so with Germany and US on my side), and have mostly used the AASM laser using the exact same technic used by Typhoons with Brimstones, flying low, popping up for a AASM in very close range to not give an easy shot to enemy SAM, and go back to the deck.
And in this case, the Brimstone is a much better missiles for 3 reasons :
- You have more of them (although this is offset by the explosive mass against tanks)
- They have better maneuvrability
- They have time to target indication so you can fire them and only pop up with the laser designator seconds from impact (why the Rafale still doesn’t have this is beyond me)
Obviously the AASM IR has its moment with some stupid 6x kill streaks in one pass, and those can influence the game much more in 10s than an eurofighter having to do passes for 5 minutes to get 3 kills, but the time were people can climb at 10km altitude and drop down firing all their FnF weapons is ending as everyone is getting new SAM (starting mostly with the SLM). I think the fact that Britain doesn’t actually have a decent SAM to shot down AASM is the main factor as to why you are so adamant at putting them in the same bag as the KH38MT, while I personally think comparing them to Maverick in term of efficiency is a better approach
all blocks ASRAAM have datalink iirc, you might be thinking of Aim-9X Block 1, which doesn’t?