If you are so sure that the iris is 100g capable you surely have a source for that
If you so sure it cant reach with dual plane feel free to prove it, also im tired of seeing you constantly commenting on my posts, just leave it.
Iam not out here making wild claims
You are in the need to proof your claim
Which you can’t so cut the crap
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Unless you cant prove otherwise dont waste my time.
I’m already tired of you opposing every comment I make, go do something else.
There is an accepted bug report for 60g but not more than that
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ID2T6ZoOTSe3
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So are you telling @Gunjob to shut up as well because he doesn’t belive your sourcless claim?
Unlike you I have seen sources and the suggest 60g and not 100g but all you do is going of a misinterpreted statement that was made in an interview
If you don’t want your posts challenged don’t be on the internet spouting crap
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No, im telling you to shut up since you’re chasing me like a madman commenting every single post i make.
I suggest touch some grass.
Thats for single plane mode not dual plane, seems like you dont even know the difference hence why you’re so arrogant.
No im only having troubles with you since you’re such a douche, i have no problem with other people.
As i’ve said find something else to spend your time.
A source for your claim that’s all iam asking for, you are the only one being arrogant thinking that you don’t need to provide sources for your claims
You cannot just assert that it is a single plane system without providing justification. With modern missiles employing lifting bodies and thrust vector control the single versus dual plane distinction is not that straightforward. How much of the IRIS-T’s G load is generated purely from its aerodynamic control surfaces. This is easier to assess on older missiles without modern aerodynamic enhancements but not so applicable to modern control schemes.
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Even then a 60G TVC missile will most likely pull harder with Dual Plane mode, same situation occurs on Magic-2 and Python-4/5.
Both missiles capable of pulling much higher G’s in Dual Plane mode, for example iirc Magic-2 can pull up to 50G while Python-4/5 can pull harder than 50G in dual plane mode.
sure buddy you go comment in a thread iam somewhat active in and then complain about me oposing you
does this really look like me following you around?
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so you dont have any source
then thats it
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You really need to stop acting like child and get over it, i already told you that im done with you so go find different hobby for yourself, unless you’re obsessed with me.
clearly iam obsessed with you
you are just upset that iam not blindly beliving you and asking for sources, which should be the bare minimum on the internet
the only one that needs to grow up is you, if you think iam obsessed with you
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Both missiles use classic aerodynamic layouts, which makes it straightforward to confirm their dual-plane control. You cannot use them as examples for the IRIS-T because it employs a completely different aerodynamic configuration.
Likewise, you cannot simply take a G figure such as 60G and apply dual-plane control logic to it, because the IRIS-T uses three distinct methods to control pitch, making a direct comparison impossible.
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iirc same problem occurs on R-73, in game it can pull 40G while in dual plane mode it should be capable 60G, so im curios whats the thing that stop IRIS-T to stop pulling more G’s in similiar situation.
Just asking since you know more than me.
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If we generously assume the IRIS T’s total 60G load capacity comes from three equal pitch control methods, the fins would only account for 20G. Applying dual plane control maths to that means taking the vector sum of pitch and yaw contributions, which is the square root of 20G squared plus 20G squared. This gives the square root of 800, which is about 28.28G. Even with generous assumptions, the fins alone would therefore contribute far less than the 40G you’d need to make up for to close that 60-100G gap.
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We have a Comment from an Interviw were a Diehl Manager says that the Iris-T has “half” the Turning circle of an R-73
half in “” as he compares the turning circles with Fruits.
“If the turning circle of the Sidewinder corresponds to the diameter of a watermelon, the Wympel R-73 requires an apple and the IRIS-T a plum.”
I see, thanks for the explanation, in this case 60G will be more likely maximum achievable G overload.
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This doesn’t really mean anything. I have about 1/600 the turning circle of an R-73 while walking on foot. You can’t just compare turning circles.