Correct, so if that’s a gameplay parameter we may be able to disable it?
Pretty sure most of the search pattern changes are worse, barring the narrow one, which will actually work as a narrow search instead of a quasi-STT lock.
The actual search patterns are getting further from IRL ones as well, which is sub-optimal…
Most of the other changes seem good tho?
More like both wide and medium TWS are now “bad” narrow scan pattern.
Dropping wide from 70 deg width to 30 deg means the scan pattern is now 60x4.2° for 252°², while medium goes from 60x8.4° down to 30x8.4°², also 252°². That is roughly the search volume of the F-16C’s narrow scan, which is 20x12.8° for 256°².
Thr narrow scan goes from 20x4.1° (86°²) to 15x12.6° (189°²). Objectively makes it a better narrow scan than it was before, but it loses that super fast update rate some people liked of it (was being used as a quasi-STT).
The new medium/wide search patterns are just terrible. Im not sure why gaijin decided to nerf that part of the CAPTOR-M even more…
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How I feel seeing that they’ve changed the Captor-M radar, now I just need to test it in game to see if it actually ends up being better.
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Give it a little bit to get pushed to live…
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All I need from them is the ability to guide with the IRST and then my mission is complete until we get stealth jets.
On the note of roll-stabilisation, IIRC I read somewhere it was software stabilised.
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Yeah just checked, full TWS is the old wide TWS (140x4.2°)
So we’re getting 4x scan patterns instead of 3?
Me personally, im happy with a 30 degree scan to work with. its a small step up from our 20 degree narrow scan, but below the (very buggy) 60.
Yup
Wouldnt surprise me that they made the change without a source
about the P thing,
Zusammenfassung
take it with an grain of salt
Nice, that explains what the hell that line means then .
Reading the changes was a little concerned we were loosing the wide mode (niche but useful) but more options = more flexibility in radar operation
tbh, just gimme an working HMD/TWS mode
I’m trying to figure out if that means a pulse search mode or if it’s interleaved into TWS for example
Hopefully this means the radar wont just drop out constantly, also hopefully TWS will auto-swap to maintain the lock, which again, means we wont have times where the radar is blind.
Was meaning to bring this up with Gunjob and enquire why it didnt have a SRC mode if nothing else
IF nothing bugs out, we still talk about gaijin soooo…
Hold on now, take it easy. We have to ask for things they can realsitically actually fix
Gunna say this now with people active in the thread.
When this update drops. If you get intances of:
- HMD / ACM not locking a target that is 100% not notching
- Ghosting
- Wierd radar updates
- Whatever new torture gaijin has created
- etc etc etc
Grab a screenshot with F-12, exit the game and save the gamelog file for that session and ideally save the replay too (File or replay link).
Because past history has taught us anything. Good chance we’ll have new bug reports to submit so lets grab things nice and early.
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Its not really “more options”.
Before, the options were:
- Quasi-STT (narrow) 20x4.1° (horrible narrow scan, but good for tracking a single target)
- Medium 70x8.4° (best vertical search zone CAPTOR had access too, but still not great comparatively)
- Wide 140x4.2° (niche use in ground battles to search across the ground for other ppl hugging treetops)
Now the options are:
- Narrow 15x12.6° (an actual functionnal narrow scan with more vertical search area for finding a target quickly)
- Medium 30x8.4° (not much actual reason to use this, its effectively a worse narrow scan, but is arguably the “best” normal search pattern CAPTOR now has access to)
- Wide 60x4.2° (Not much point in ever using this, its just bad)
- Full 140x4.2° (Retains its niche function of finding ppl mowing the lawn)
Overall, I dont think most players will care much about the change in search patterns, since the spotting system is a massive crutch in that regard for RB. For sim players its a mixed bag imo. The narrow pattern being better now helps a lot for quickly finding targets that are already engaging you, fixing one of the issues the CAPTOR-M always had, buy all the other search patterns are a downgrade in actually searching. This pushes the EFT in a more defensive/reactive role than it was already in before, which is not ideal, since AIM-120’s are pretty bad missiles for that role specifically (they are “shoot first” kinds of ARH’s in WT)
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Hmm… Maybe, 30x8.4 doesnt sound too bad if its fast enough, which it might be with half the update time, useful for monitoring an area of space.
Wide, is niche, but again, the scan time is being reuded by more than half. I’ve spent enough time in the Tornado F3 to make 60x5 work just fine usually. So that is almost my bread & butter mode im use to
Though would love to get the ability to basically manually control the zones. Have a keybind for increasing each area independently.
Want 60x12.6? sure, it will take X amount of itme to scan that zone, but you can have it.