Tbf everyone copes on this god forsaken website. He copes. Morvan copes. I cope…
We are all a bunch of players coping for our favorite aircrafts. One one side, we have people wanting the most OP Thing. On another, people want future aircraft upgrades now for their favorite aircraft, but that rule better not apply to other aircraft…
If EFT is added with all of it’s real life feature then how good would it be?
Let me paint you a picture.
- Crackle of Thunder and Lightning -
You see, every British main on this forum is the reincarnated Ghost of Biggles himself, with some Nelson and Christopher Lee thrown in for good measure. Never had we had the tools to smite the lesser mortals who frequent this game.
Occasionally, we get glimmers - the results of which traumatise those who still have Perfidious Albion living rent-free inside their heads.
HESH? What we did to everyone in a week with a realistic HESH shell was enough for Gaijin to make up any and all excuses (dodgy blog posts written by some hermit in Siberia included) to nerf it out of existence.
BOL pods being reduced by 75% effectiveness. That was because the Brits got Gripen - and we used it to great effect. Took a few weeks but the results are still with us today - probably because the Flanker Mafia still have nightmares about getting so royally buggered by a Saab that was a bit dubious in the British tech tree.
Give us TYPHOON (for ‘Eurofighter’ is all a bit foreign sounding) with it’s true potential and you shall learn the meaning of air superiority. Muhahahahaha - (laughs in British, while sipping tea).
- Full disclosure, read the above text in the voice of Alan Rickman / Charles Dance / Brain Blessed for greatest impact. -
Seriously though - it would be rather good. Not the be-all and end-all of fighter jets - but pretty solid at top tier in the absence of Tempest, et al. While I appreciate the looks and vibe of Rafale - my personal affection shall always be for a Tiffy.
Mic drop and close Thread?
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And what if they added F-35 with all of its real life features. How would Eurofighter (also with all of it’s real life features) compare to it?
What you are forgetting there is the testing/prototyping steps and uts actualy being count into service.
The AMK itself actualy exists since years already and can be instantly added as part of the IPA07 example. Gajin has shown multiple times already that the prototype dtage is enough for uts implementation.
Besides that either way most of the points of that slide are irrelevant for war thunder
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Chalk and Cheese really.
One is a 4.5th Gen Fighter with an express focus on air-to-air (obviously expanded to multi-role - but the original design and capabilities were heavily skewed towards tackling MiG-29s, Su-27s etc.).
The other is a 5th Gen Fighter that is designed to augment other aircraft working with it (like Typhoon) by being able hoover up vast amounts of information and pass it on - while being hard to see itself.
An F-35 might do it’s thing and map/plot where the reds are - allowing a Typhoon to chuck a Meteor or two, or four into the mix from over the horizon. Quite hard to defend against a threat you don’t know is there…
Like the Spotter/Sniper team concept. At least that is how some who know far better than I have told me.
(In War Thunder - on our map sizes - you’d probably be better off in a Typhoon vs F-35. Real life is somewhat more nuanced…)
Yeah, the moment he claimed the EFT was OP because it could fire an Aim-120C5 at a target that was 100° off boresight and somehow hit it, just proves he was just making stuff up
I could not think of any other advanced American jet. F-22 is still being modernized and F-35 might be more advanced then F-15EX, so i went with F-35
Considering how large map was in nuclear thunder, I think they would be adding large maps with 5th gen (or maybe with new aerial warfare gamemode they were talking about) for air rb/sim
The question is how stealth will be modeled. If it does basically nothing then the EFT is already a lot stronger than the F35.
F35 is basically dependent on stealth to do anything well, so it’s only actually good in things like SEAD. Everything else its just average
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Also ECM and EW. We’ve got 50+ years worth of missile systems in the game without the EW/ECM that would be used in real-life to counter or negate it…
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Even in terms of ECM/EW and all other technologies?
Exact specs we don’t really know, but tbh, in some aspects the EFT will be stronger with every possible type of ECM built internally and a much larger CM count. (Flames post here responding to you before) In others they are equal, like both using Britecloud.
How other points will compare is tricky to really compare accurately. If nothing else, the EFT EK that has Arexis is probably equal if not stronger in terms of EW than the F35
In terms of War Thunder. I doubt they’ll be overly different in terms of the EW
@Morvran
You know… Sometimes I catch myself thinking, that gaijin deliberately made the Rafale OP to divert the attention from the “russian bias”, like dividing the camp of the NATO countries to let them fight against each other instead of facing the bigger problem together. “Divide and conquer” so to say… And it seems to work like a charm.
Yeah, probably. Either that or they used the OP nature of the Rafale to justify the Su-30SM2 to be as OP as it is currently
Why not both? Divide your opponent while simultaneously create a pretense/justification? :D
I mean, they had all the chances to balance these aircrafts/nations by either chaning the introduction order (e.g. swiss subtree for germany before the introduction of the EF with the F/A-18C and E being the counterpart for the Su-30SM(2)) or putting both at an equalized technological level (e.g. both M-Scan). You can’t tell me that they didn’t see the problem/disparity before the introduction.
I guess I should not keep my hopes high for F-35
My opinion of it IRL is that the F35 always get overhyped quite a bit
bc the F-35 is more of a sensor platform to datalink missiles in fired from other planes, more than anything else
Without stealth mechanic implementation you will just get a plane with worse FM and very limited ammunition carriage. And even with stealth: The most maps are way too small for it to make a big difference and on bigger maps you will have stealth planes just circling high up dropping guided munitions everywhere never seeing another stealth plane or being seen by the enemy.
Yeah, that is largely my opinion and why I guess stealth won’t be too strong, because if it is, stealth Vs stealth would be akin to blindfolded toddlers aimlessly trying to find each other