I guess it couldn’t be a problem for them back then since SLM didn’t exist during its time :))
small correction in that AMIDS is on typhoon, and the harrier uses PVS2000 instead. Otherwise basically what i was gonna say
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Corrected, thanks.
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Likely in a more basic dispense everything against all threats modes. I cannot think of a installation of PVS2000 or AMIDS that wouldn’t involve some kind of DAS suite comprising at minimum an RWR, I suppose it could be retro fit to old analog only RWR equipped aircraft. But such an aircraft seemingly never existed.
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If the seeker glass is coated with a RF reflective/scattering material (which is transparent for IR waves), that will not matter at all ^^
Did the FA.2 have any ECM related stuff?
The idea was to fit it on things that probably weren’t originally combat aviation, which would explain the standalone capability. I don’t know if that ever happened.
Chaff, thats it.
I’ve read about other things
But did the sky guardian not integrate with the Chaff and Jammer kits?
Sky Guardian in its installation with AN/ALQ-101-10 on Jaguar was independent. But not all SG fits are the same, SG-2000 on AH Mk.1 incorporates a full DAS as does SG-200D on AH Mk.2.
But no, FA.2 doesn’t have any active jamming capabilites, either by pod or alternate modes of the radar.
It only had chaff as a passive defence.
Here you go @MatrixRupture;
RWR and Dispensers;
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It’s also likely that the angular precision of the different systems is enough to detect multiple sources independently even in close proximity. I don’t have the values for the EFT, but I know that all detection systems for the rafale are said to be sub 1º precision.
I’d assume that the MAW has a better discrimination than the RWR due to the high band it operates on the EFT as well, and the RWR probably is similar to the rafale in capabilities.
I don’t even know we are speaking of standalone anymore. Now every plane has a DAS system that treats different threats in a standalone system (such as what @Gunjob shared above); before even feeding such information to the rest of the aircraft systems (for example, before another pass of sensor fusion for offensive capabilities). It just doesn’t make very much sense to speak of MAW and RWR has different systems, just like it doesn’t really make sense to differentiate the emitter and receiver of modern ESA radars.
As for in game implementation, combining MAW and RWR would be a very basic sensor fusion mechanic to implement, and to be honest I’m surprised this isn’t basical’y the first thing they introduced when they started adding simple sensor fusion stuff
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Similar yes but current Spectra on Rafale can provide GPS coordinates for threats. EFT will get that capability in eVo DASS/Next Gen DASS.
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You’d still have the issue of Russia and France making kits that are both IR and Radar with just a different seeker head… MICA, R24, R27 are simple examples of that.
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I was specifically referring to the angular resolution, not of the different ranging methods.
This also can provide help to discriminate threats, although I’d expect that in the case 2 missiles were fired in such close proximity that they’d be inside of the sub1° resolution of say an RWR, then the rafale also wouldn’t be capable of giving accurate 3D coordinates of the missile that is behind the first one.
Could also incorrectly estimate the range of the first missile if the one in the back deforms the radio signals used for ranging the threat.
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I’m sure DASS is 98% sure of that too. But that’s just it. It’s not omniscient. It will make mistakes at sometimes. Saying to make it omniscient is just fantasy.
Anybody experiencing MAWS doing nothing when being fired by aim9x?
Your MAW’s is working?
Being a SAM, it might be coming in from an angle that is in the blindspot.