Indeed this is why the sensor fusion buffs, manoeuvrability, energy retention, weapons fits, IRST buffs, countermeasure buffs and others are all imperative to ensure the maximum possible performance of these aircraft in a 5th gen dominated environment.
Oh, my mistake, I thought the M was the ramjet. In that case then that should read R-77-1 and R-77M.
Mako hypersonic missile for the F-35 is also tasty, let’s hope Gaijin continue the Typhoon nations ethos of sharing possible payloads…
Finally a weapon to rival Metal Gear Eh Kh-38s!
these even really exist? They were tested? and Mako?

Good enough for the Kh-38 brother
fair
I’m being facetious, it’s a long way away from service but it is a venture that Lockheed Martin are progressing and plan to offer it to all NATO partners, Typhoons and Rafales could have it.
There are also some interesting points that it can be used to engage air and ground targets.
So yeah a Mach 6+ missile for BVR on a Stealth airframe would be naughty!
F-35 can fit ASRAAM.
F-35 can fit Spear
Spear is a continuation of Brimstone
Typhoon was a competitor to the Brimstone
Therefore F-35 with Typhoon when? :P
nothing happened. why
Brimstones are really poor right now.
I eated them
Clearly multipathing for Nato A2G munitions /s
flawless logic
Holy moly Aim-9Ms have like a 90% failure rate at the moment
Aim-9Miss
the idea for rear finned missiles has been around way before ASRAAM. just look at the competing designs for the AMRAAM program, from Northrop and Raytheon
Sounds accurate
When are they fixing the thing about the radar swapping to IR in STT and blocking the ability to fire AMRAAMs.
Just died because of it
Made a FOX2 to a Mig29 2.7km away in rear aspect.
It instantly lost track and decided to kiss the ground.
Even without being flared in that situation.
They currently also register missiles in its FoV 100% as flares. Don’t know if that’s realistic but I would assume it’s not, as missile rocket motors have a totally differen IR signature from the plane itself and flares AFAIK.
They are totally lackluster in rear aspect currently as the flares keep being in its FoV so incredibly long and the target firing missiles counting as flares too (if they shoot straight the missile keeps being in the FoV for multiple seconds which the missile flies by IOG drifting off). Side-Aspect is alright.
Edit: And seeker-shutoff currently behaves like this:
- If you activate the seeker on a flare it keeps being shutoff until the flare leaves its FoV.
- If you activate the seeker in an area without a flare and then pull it onto a flare it solidly locks but the lock drifts into nowhere (no IOG, no SRC, solid TRK onto a non-existent target for multiple seconds). You have to manually relock to get your target circle back.
- Assumption: During track in flight the missile does a seeker-shutoff because of a flare/missile. The moment it tries to relock and another flare/missile comes into the FoV the lock drifts off with TRK like described above before launch, causing the missile to veer into a random direction.