Can they just stick the CAMM data link module in it already
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Datalink is not required for LOAL. Asraam will be just fine without datalink
Indeed, I don’t have concerns over it. Also data linking to an IR missile removes the key benefits of it being a passive missile, the trade off is you will get improved pK at longer ranges from that DL capability against a threat that cannot detect the DL emissions, but if the enemy RWR picks up your DL transmissions to said missile its lost the element of surprise.
Its a trade off for sure, depends on where you place the weight, does your enemy have advanced RWR’s that might detect the DL emissions as such begin defending much earlier? Or the better midcourse guidance more preferable?
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I think the next-generation IR missiles will primarily target those using lowaltitude, multipath targets, but if the seeker performance is not significantly different from the 9M, I’m concerned about having to rely on IOG for side angles and head-ons.
On a BFBS news segment on the Raven SPAA system sent to Ukraine, they claimed “tracking” out to 25km, issue there is no target conditions, so all aspect? rear aspect? Reheat or no? These are important factors in determining seeker performance.
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Also likely tracking smaller targets like KH-101, 3M54-1 and Geran drones.
Well no not most likely. They were talking about the missiles performance, not in relation to a specific target set. We simply do not know.
As it has no datalink we will just be lobbing them in general vicinity of the target until the seeker can see it as a way for them to model it
thats assuming that we will get loal on those missiles
Well we know they wont be tested against Russian aircraft due to the proximity of LOC and that the VKS/VVS rarely goes over the LOC excluding the Su-25 strikes which are not as frequent since the use of the FABs by the Su-34 fleet.
Unless they have tested them against UA aircraft?
Well the claims of ASRAAM performance are independent of the Raven SPAA. And ASRAAM existed before the Geran drone existed. We simply cannot invent a situation that gives the most favourable figure. We simply do not know. You cannot take a position on it as we don’t have that information.
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Did you not say the data came from Ukrainian use?
Ukraine have not shot down a Jet or helicopter using ASRAAM we have no reports confirming that but we have reports claiming a 70% drone interception rate.
But then the system is used in LOAL mode so I am also confused how they could verify the seeker has a 25km range?
Wouldn’t the tracking value quoted be with the electro-optic, not the seeker?
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No I said it was from a BFBS report showing off Raven SPAA. Which has a section that talks about ASRAAM. @DevilO6 has linked the segment.
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Right so this is UK test data before we handed it over to Ukraine to confirm it’s feasibility.
No its a claim from BFBS news about ASRAAM specifically. “test data” isn’t mentioned and is giving the quote more credence that what is it.
You don’t need to reword it. I don’t understand why you keep tacking on extra context that we don’t have.
I said non of this, you invented all this context over the course of 3 posts mate.
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The 25km is the best we have, tho it is either incorrect or correct in a very specific scenario, so specific, that they were not afraid to give it to the public.
Or it’s just BFBS saying stuff without consulting the MoD.
It is what is it, a simple claim by the BFBS News, how much weight you want to give it is up to you. But as you say as it currently stands that’s the only “tracking” figure I’m aware of.
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