Did you not say the data came from Ukrainian use?
Ukraine have not shot down a Jet or helicopter using ASRAAM we have no reports confirming that but we have reports claiming a 70% drone interception rate.
But then the system is used in LOAL mode so I am also confused how they could verify the seeker has a 25km range?
Wouldn’t the tracking value quoted be with the electro-optic, not the seeker?
No I said it was from a BFBS report showing off Raven SPAA. Which has a section that talks about ASRAAM. @DevilO6 has linked the segment.
Right so this is UK test data before we handed it over to Ukraine to confirm it’s feasibility.
No its a claim from BFBS news about ASRAAM specifically. “test data” isn’t mentioned and is giving the quote more credence that what is it.
You don’t need to reword it. I don’t understand why you keep tacking on extra context that we don’t have.
I said non of this, you invented all this context over the course of 3 posts mate.
The 25km is the best we have, tho it is either incorrect or correct in a very specific scenario, so specific, that they were not afraid to give it to the public.
Or it’s just BFBS saying stuff without consulting the MoD.
It is what is it, a simple claim by the BFBS News, how much weight you want to give it is up to you. But as you say as it currently stands that’s the only “tracking” figure I’m aware of.
Given the context, wouldnt it be some reasonable to assume the target was probably relatively cold targets like drones or cruise missiles?
(just caught up with the discussion, never mind)
I assumed the data was from Ukraine from actual deployment I had not seen the article.
It’s all cleared up now
No, there is no reasonable assumption we have no data points to go off. The context of the segment was of the ASRAAM missile, not its employment in any given situation and is independent of discussion of Raven in Ukraine during the rest of the video.
Media literacy is dying haha.
I’ve always assumed it was effective range, rather than absolute max range. But Gaijin being Gaijin. They’ll probably self-destruct after 25km
Initially slower, but for the regime it’s slower you can probably abuse ASRAAM or take AMRAAM.
I still do not understand the decision to procure A’s when the production lot will only be finished 2 years before Tempest IOC, on a plane which by that point will still only just be acquiring a basic UK weapons fit likely to also be included on Tempest, additionally we will have no sovereign control over them.
(Admittedly the A’s will probably be the earliest deliveries).
But to address the overarching point, yes we had better hope for A’s from Australia as the B will be the worst G-rating, with the fewest missiles and the worst T/W. And although our advantage will be the long range IR ASRAAM depending on how they implement stealth that might be a huge win, you still will only have 2 of them.
F-35 has a few issues that will likely result in a bit of a mid addition when it finally turns up.
Low countermeasure count;
BAE Systems presentation has 48 for the two bins;
The only aspect of the F-35 im even remotely interested in is how they modeled the cockpit, especially the HMD and look-through-cockpit thing. If they model it at all.
They can’t even model HMD thermal vision.
Yup, exactly :D
Big stretched blob
They can’t even model unstretched HUD, or a UV tint. It’s too hard
