Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2)

I have no idea, though wasnt that before IRCCM?

I’m pretty sure there was IRCCM already in the game, but I could be wrong as it was a long time ago…

I instantly recognized my home nations F16 lol

RAAAAHHHH DENMARK!!! 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

Meh, I can’t find it anymore… I know that it existed as I read it on Steam and it was really interesting…

That doesn’t really look like a flare by the way lol

Its probably something more like an illumination-type flare than a CM flare. Just a nice hot target, with a parachute and long burn time to shoot at

The IRCCM circuit did function before launch:

Your video doesn’t show anything about fair rejection.

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my video shows how a 9m is locking onto flares, dosent it?

Though is that the Flare Rate Bias & Push Ahead not the Seeker Shutoff?

  1. The video shows an IR target flare, which has completely different properties to an IR decoy flare.
  2. Flare rejection on the AIM-9M works by comparing the IR signature of the flare to the IR signature of the original target. In this video the original target is the flare and there is no second IR source to compare to. Ergo no mechanism to trigger flare rejection (and that’s ignoring the whole target flare =/= decoy flare issue).
  3. A report from trials of the AIM-9M literally says the IRCCM works before launch.

Flare rate bias only kicks in after seeker shutoff occurs, so the fact that flare rate bias was observed means that the seeker shut off. Also the fact that targets were re-acquired after flying in front of the sun would suggest that the sun was detected as a flare and seeker shut off occurred.

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Ah I see, fair enough. Thank you

Talking of Aim-9M firings reminds me of this passage:

Harrier: How to be a fighter pilot


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We also have reports from that Sea Drone that smoked those 2 Sukhois using Aim9M…

The operator stated surpising to no one that the Aim9M was more effective than the R-73 used previously.

Which is probably a combination of low smoke motor, IRCCM and lock on range.

All three of which are either not implemented, bugged or just stonewalled by devs! Yippeee!

No wonder my AIM-9Ms recently have been so easily warded off. Guess I’ll go back to Japan where at least their missiles work more often than not.

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So… Does anyone want to file a bug report about the AIM-9M / L/I(-1) seeker, IRCCM and guidance bugs?

If I get a clean example, Im going to report front aspect IRCCM not working, but that and I suspect all the other issues would probably require primary docs to be accepted.

Wdym?

I wouldn’t say that the guidance lock-up bug (causing the missile to turn into nowhere after it is fired and has to maneuver hard) would need primary documents.

The seeker shut-off duration on the other hand would most likely need one.

The lock drifting into nowhere because of an over-ambitious IOG (lock-on with directly following seeker shut-off without valid data for IOG) causing the lock to drift into nirvana really fast (before launching the missile) is difficult to prove wrong…

Expected behaviour.

Target coming straight at you, you fire an Aim-9M, the target flares, the seeker shutoffs but otherwise the missile keeps flying towards where it thinks the target should.

Observed behaviour

Target coming straight at you, you fire an Aim-9M, the target flares, the Aim-9M re-targets the flare and goes for it instead, no sign of the IRCCM ever triggering.

Yeah, that one would be reportable without sources.

Yeah, not it