that asymetrical kinda cringes me haha
holy
Do the devs have any plans to implement multi-mode seekers onto these kinds of munitions in the future? Or are they just planning on sticking to the multiple variants of what are the same missile?
There are plenty of missiles and bombs in game that should eventually have some sort of LOAL/MitL capabilities.
I think the US will have an F/A-18 with JAGMS before Britain has Brimstone 2 or any kind of top tier FnF missile.
The seeker of the 120A would still be underperforming if they had given it the dev server 120C-5 seeker, THATS how much the 120’s seekers are gimped atm.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QhYDPYj3LIRl
And this is just regarding beamwidth.
Would have made the Rafale mains too angry, they already had a post begging for more buffs going on the dev server back when the 120C-5 was only going to come to some F-15/18’s. Only the french are allowed to have a properly modelled seeker.
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It’s worth noting that the F/A-18E uses regular JAGMs, not the JAGM-MR we have in game right now. In other words, SAL + MMW, not IIR.
Not to mentioned there’s a whole other type of JAGM, the JAGM-F (F = fixed wing), that is used by the F-15E. Again, SAL + MMW, not IIR.
Both are different, and neither have the tri-mode IIR seeker present on the JAGM-MR (that we know of). I’m sure it would be easy to swap out the seeker section and make it tri-mode, but we don’t have evidence of that happening yet.
I just want a BVR missile that doesn’t get defeated by a badly executed notch and a few drops of chaff. Like, dying from a 20+ km shot is just a skill issue on the defender part atp.
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JAGM-MR uses the same launch rail no reason why it wouldn’t be added.
And US mains would love it.
Even just getting rid of the smoke trail would be a boost. Quite often I see them firing before I get any meaningful RWR warning and so Im ready for them long before they come in.
This is also what I do all the time when defending against F-14s in an uptier. Im still not sure how people miss the incoming volleys
Note also the worst missile at medium range and at short ranges and in ground battles the worst missile when your rivals have MICAs and R-77-1
You and me both, but the fighter jocks that want guns only and are mad missiles even exist at top tier are a pretty loud bunch
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I have no experience in GRB, neither with Amraam slingers nor with R-77-1/Mica slingers, but given the size of the maps I can see what the issue is.
Ground Rb is know of how air rb should be, remove the stupid markers and missile diamonds and make players have to use their heads.
Unfortunately any jet with 120s is just at such a disadvantage
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I’d be happy with that just to get rid of the stupidly bugged spotting system lmao, that sometimes doesn’t even trigger sub 3km’s…
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I think now jets have MAWS and systems you could bring back the missile diamond for when a missile is detected by the system. But yes buddy spotting doesn’t work and with the Radars and RWRS we have at top tier we really do not need name boxes in a supposed realistic game mode.
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That’s assuming they give the F/A-18E access to JAGM-MRs in the first place. Which isn’t a guarantee.
Considering the Super Hornet would be in a similar boat as the Eurofighter, being able to carry up to 18x JAGMs, I would expect Gaijin to just add regular JAGMs with only SAL seekers.
IR mode is fine though it’s mmW that’s the problem in Gaijins eyes. For what the USMC would use JAGM for why wouldn’t you want the most advanced version? When your defence budget is infinite dollars everyone get’s the best stuff
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It’s not just MMW, it’s FnF as a whole that they’re cautious about. They’ve been reluctant to put a large number of FnF missiles/AGMs on fixed wing aircraft for ages. Just look at the F-15I not getting SPICE-250s.
While it would be cool to see the 18E get JAGM-MRs, I’m definitely not expecting them. Just based off of how Gaijin has treated the Eurofighters, and how we don’t have solid proof of JAGM-MRs going on the 18E, I’m epxecting regular SAL JAGMs.