That just means we can no longer use Dassault as a source unless it names the exact model of the airframe.
But no doubt there are more bug reports citing Dassault as sources
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Faster, proximity fuse and greater range
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so only 1 tangible benefit, AASMs are still missing their proximity fuse, so
I find it funny how desperate people are to try and nerf the Typhoon.
Going from SAL Brimstone 1s to SAL Brimstone 2s might not seem like much of a buff to you. But its a massive buff, it is rediculous how we are denied our principle A2G weapon and then people fight to deny us a half decent but still massively nerfed version of said weapon as well.
if nothing else… The Typhoon never equipped Brimstone 1s, sure they are probably backwards compatible. But Brimstone 2 and 3ss were the only Brimstone the Typhoon actually used from what I am aware.
Following those, we should also have Spear-3 [GPS+SAL] and Spear-Glides [IR/EO+GPS+SAL].
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Literally just a SPICE 250. Do we have a suggestion in for it yet?
Gunjob probably does internally, but we are in a kinda grey area.
Unlike Spear-3s which have been test fired. The Spear-Glides havent yet. Whilst official statement says all parts have been built and tested seperately, that probably isnt enough for Gaijin. Even though its the perfect solution for the EFT.
Which is really stupid given that there is more evidence for the Spear-Glide being real than there is of the KH-38MT.
So we’ll have to wait and see.
Though there is still the report to just get SPICE-250s
Neat sound
So thats how 1700 rounds per minute sound like xD
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literally no one is asking for typhoon nerfs, what youre asking for (mmw brimstones) is entirely unreasonble
Is a fire and forget weapon on the one jet without any unreasonable?
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having 18 of them with no way to counter them absolutely is, the fact that none of you ever acknowledge that is insane, its like youre trying to hide those facts or pretend they dont exist
SAL Brimstone 2s = MMW?
Interesting…
Though actually. MMW is no more unreasonable than IR AASMs
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are you baiting or, like?, and yes, 18 MMW brimstones, is, as an objective fact, more unreasonable than 6 hammers you can actually decoy with smoke, unless you count their GPS, which only properly works on the dedicated GPS version and the laser, GPS does nothing on IR weapons, additionally relying on GPS is relying on the target not to move, which only works against SPAA
God damn people like parroting nonsense
Lets start here.
Yes the Typhoon can carry 18x Brimstones, it is a superior weapon system and aircraft combo. We know this. Its why the Typhoon is the best IRL.
However, if the ONLY reason to not add FnF is because it can carry so many… then add a mitigation method other than SAL and Brimstone 1s…
Like making SP cost increase after taking 6-9x Brimstones significantly. Or capping the number you can take… There are solutions to the quantity. The only real limit is how much effort Gaijin can put in. But we already have 16x FnF on helis… So…
and im expecting the US to get 20x GBU-53s with IR guidance any day now. I dont think Gaijin cares about quantity that much
There is smoke that exists to defeat MMW. Granted doesnt work against Brimstones… but when has that ever stopped Gaijin.
And?
The Typhoons Primary A2G weapon at the moment is the Paveway IV… A GPS +SAL weapon. Its not even a glide bomb. Thankfully its one of the few bombs not bugging out at the moment
Fact. The Typhoon is the only 13.0 CAS aircraft without FnF.
We Know that mode 3 Brimstones would be very strong… Only if there was a LOBL mode like mode 2…
We can carry many more…
But, it is time for some form of FnF and/or half decent form of stand-off weapon.
If they continue to refuse MMW.
Spear-Glides. (Basically Spice-250s) Along with SAL Brimstones 2s.
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theres actually no evidence it carries 18 IRL, i know theres the picture of it with 18 in the hanger but can you actually find an image of it in an attacker role with more than 6?
i have 3 reports from 3 different nations putting the rafale ahead of the eurofighter
its not the only reason, i never said that, its PART of the reason sure, because 1 eurofighter could kill an entire team
and how long until someone like you tries to bug report that?
being a glide bomb or not really doesnt make a difference? you can lob GPS bombs just fine, i certainly do
id totally be okay with the smart gliders (alternative name of spears) as the rafale can also carry 18 of them
Because it hasnt needed to carry that many. During OP shader Paveway IVs were just as useful to equip as Brimstones. Especially as Brimstones 2s were only fitted in 2018 and so the Paveway IVs did all the CAS in Libya and the main starter chunk in Op Shader…
But this is such a bad attempt at nerfing the Typhoon its actually quite funny
congrats? Can the Rafale carry 18x AASMs?
The fact you are here arguing against Typhoon buffs tells me everything I need to know. I can think of about 20 reports that would put the Typhoon massively ahead of the Rafale from FM buffs, to CM buffs, to loadout. heck even CAPTOR-E is way more advanced than the Rafales radar
and? Rafale can kill half a team usually in a single pass and be safely back to base before any of them hit. Typhoon has to loiter over the battlefield killing something one at a time.
Probably already reported by Gunjob. But its Gaijins decision at the end of the day.
It helps. spamming 16x GBU-39s beats out 8x PW4s.
Is there any evidence of this?
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the french rafale F3 hasnt equipped 8 missiles because he hasnt needed to.
so what im hearing is, it doesnt carry them, and theres no proof that it can
not as bad as your attempt at a nerf of the rafales empty weight lmao
the eurofighter can even take 18 brimstones so moot point lmao
see now you show your hand, youre arguing in bad faith, nowhere am i arguing against buffing the typhoon, i am arguing against a game breaking mechanic
only took them about a decade
so can the F-16I, F-15, Su-30 difference is, with the exception of the F-16I, those all get only 6 fire and forget AGMs, and can be smoked
we both know thats what you want
the GBU-39 cant kill anything outside of SPAA without a direct hit, so again, moot point
https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/smartglider-light-air-launched-guided-weapon/
I have yet to see any proof of that…
Yes, there is plenty of proof.
Not as bad as Mutala attempted to nerf the Brimstone that resulted in quite a sizable buff for the Brimstone.
Yes, it can. I get it, Rafale main jealous of the superior eurocanard. Dont worry, some day France will catch up to the Typhoon IRL.
You are arguing against FnF
Or you are trying to badly argue against the Typhoon having 18x Brimstones.
what next? Gunna argue against the ability for the Typhoon to carry AMRAAM?
Sure. Of course I want it as good as it can be. Just like how Rafale mains want the MICA EM to be even more stupidly OP than it already is.
Neither can Brimstones half the time… So… ?
A digital render. Great evidence
Looking forward to this if that is the best you’ve got
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look at the indian rafale F3R, literally the same plane, they just actually put on 8 missiles
a single photograph of a mockup does not count
okay? im not upset that the brimstone got a buff.
belgium, canada and switzerland all put the rafale above the Eurofighter by a wide margin
i am arguing against a mechanic that will have little to no counterplay, you even admitted that previously
you cannot have both 18 brimstones and be fire and forget, you can have 1 or the other, and gaijin agrees with me
no? see youre arguing in bad faith again, or youre incapable of figuring out what im actually arguing against, i dont know which one would be worse
i just want more range lmao, the seeker “buff” did little to nothing for the mica, its strength comes from gaijin adding angle gating, and how fast the mica is,
i dont know what you were trying to point out with this one, your comment was about GPS bombs to which i said you can lob them for more range, not needing a glide kit, which isnt even true, you have JDAM ERs.
difference is, mine comes from an official expo
yours is a painting anyone could have done
youre 0/10 on points
India =/= France.
Youll have to provide a primary doc stating nothing changed
Im sure Flame and Gunjob have plenty of docs for it. But go ahead, bug report it.
It has plenty of counterplay, the exact same counterplay as the AASM.
Why not?
As I have stated previously
Denying FnF on the grounds that the Typhoon and Tornado can carry 18 is the most stupid argument in the world
and Gaijin has not stated anything anywhere about quantity being an issue.
and I just want Aim-120Bs to have IRL performance, let alone Aim-120C5s. Or Aim-9Ms to have their IRL lock ranges. Let alone HOBS.
Spear-glide, slated for the Typhoon, Its brother the Spear-3 has already been test fired from a Typhoon
Given they are being deveoped by MBDA UK. They’ll likely be tested on the Typhoon first and are already slated for both F-35 and Typhoon intergration
The Spear Glide is less than 2 metres long and has a mass under 100 kg, and exploits existing launchers such as the three-pack and four-pack designed for Spear. MBDA aims at the fourth-generation market, so aircraft such as the Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen, and KAI KF-21. That said, the company is close to certify an internal weapons-bay launcher for the F-35. No range indication was provided, as this depends much on release altitude and wind conditions. EDR On-Line understood the range should be comparable with that of competing systems, such as the GBU-53/B Storm Breaker and the Spice 250. - source
I havent seen the Rafale mentioned once in any press release for the Spear-Glide beyond the model in the background. That isnt enough to bug report them
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correct, but the planes, are in fact, the same, which was my point, another one goes over your head,
you, LITERALLY, just said, 5 minutes ago it should ignore chaff in tank smoke, and seeing how this has gone so far, you will push for it endlessly
are you missing the point intentionally? you have to be, i have mentioned it like 5 times
so youd be okay with france having MMW AASMs?
not wanting 18 uncounterable missiles really isnt an illogical thing
sure, go ahead, tho, something tells me youll still whine about the micas close range performance, additionally, the 9M can already lock further than they can reach anyway, so what would even be the point
if mockups are good enough for 18 brimstones, theyre good enough for 18 smart gliders, but i will say you did actually counter me a little congratulations