Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion (Part 2)

So with America receiving 2 version of AGM-179, SAL and IR respectively, from what I read, it never had IR Version it’s pretty identical to Brimstone, so why the American one can got it but not the British?

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From MatAWG Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9r1Xwro_Rc&t=412s

From what I understand that missile has 3 modes of operation, gaijin just split it into 2 separate missiles for different modes

JAGM never had IR, but I think the JAGM-MR does or something at least Gaijin considers close enough.

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From: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/mfc/pc/jagm/20-12163_TSM_AGMS_JAGM-MR_Product%20Card.pdf

But the AH-64E I dont think has yet to ever use JAGM-MR, so its being added as a bodge. But its annoying that the Spice-250 has been denied for the Typhoon and they are still radio silent about even giving us SAL Brimstone 2/3s or GPS Spear-3s.

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Oh yeah nevermind, I found the keyword for Infrared lmfao, day ruined.

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I am wondering whether a proper bug report for Brimstone 2 would go anywhere

Why would they do that though? CAMM is basically an ASRAAM with ARH seeker instead of IR, and CAMM-ER with modified motor. They could just make a new ARH missile, which they did, in the form of Meteor. However, I could imagine a ground-launched Meteor with perhaps modified motor to increase range, but that’ll probably be quite expensive

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Well that got far.

Sources for the EK weapons were apparently being announced before the EK

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It’s not a bug per se, which means that’s going straight to the “forwarded as suggestion” pile I suspect.

Yet we have evidence from an airshow and a document stating that is simply not true.
Regular Eurofighter…Looks at Italian and German Typhoons using Brimstones…

The double standards strike again.

I notice there is no plan to give UK Ah-64 Brimstones in SAL mode…But the US Ah-64 is getting JAGM a copy of

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Is Britain even getting the AH-64E this major?

In all fairness in the current state of brimstones it wouldn’t even be an improvement. They have 100ms less dv than a hellfire-K. If we had 2/3 then it would be viable.

Important to note that brimstone on the 64 is about as real as starstreak on the 64. To have one but not the other is a very very weird double standard to impose.

No sign of it.

AH-64E only ever test fired Brimstone 2s (though so did the Typhoon)

The majority of weapons have only been test fired. That’s generally a good thing to be said about them.

MBDA has a video wit a few claims about the heli brimstone’s capability (including an airburst fuse)

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Brimstone was tested on the UK Ah-64 and it was from those tests that the US derived and integrated the JAGM.

Even now UK Ah-64 could carry the Brimstone with the primary reason not to being cost to establish another supply chain and the software to configure the Ah-64E to do so. If you also notice traditionally the UK Apaches were reconfigured with RR powerplants. The new E models are essentially the exact same as the US models (excluding some changes in MAWS systems)

Apache Fires BRIMSTONE Missile

More than enough evidence to justify Brimstones inclusion for UK Ah-64

Pretty sure the AH.1 never tested brimstones. Only the AH-64E did.

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wouildnt even matter to much, would still be laser guided in war thunder

25km SAL Brimstone 2s might be usable.

You are right I forget how old the Ah mk1 is. I seemed to think the Ah-64E was brand new when we have had them for a few years now.

Well maybe in a few updates we can finally have an FnF CAS platform for top tier…