What Variant is that?
Typhoon wasnt outfitted with Brismtone 2s until 2018. If the first mention of Spice was 2018 then the plan to intergrate has been around for as long as the Typhoons we kinda have in game already.
After T1, Tranche kinda doesnt matter all that much from what I understand
So aircraft integration isn’t a standard for receiving weaponry? I seem to recall some weaponry reports previously being rejected by developers because the aircraft that had been displayed with the weapon was not proven to being integrated despite the variant being the one in-game so I would like to know what the criterias developers use is.
As Gunjob has already stated, it’s up to developer’s discretion. Rafale received HMD and 2 extra MICAs also based on this discretion.
[DEV] Typhoon missing ability to Fuel dump + Afterburn simultaneously
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HSAWGuHNIiat
If it was up to developer’s discretion then the developers would simply state that they don’t wish to add it without giving other responses such as “aircraft was never integrated with it”. Since they had used that sentence, it seems to be one of their standards.
That would be the discretion part, you can look through a number of aircraft+weapon pairs in game that do not reflect an integrated system but the developers decided per their discretion that they should have them. The advice we have always given for weapons systems, non service weapons are suggestions that fall under the developers discretion.
I see that the report was converted to suggestion, one last question.
Non-service weapons, do they still have some criterias even though the standards may be lower?
Such as physically mounting them under the aircraft with a pylon, or being test-fired?
It is indeed lower, your odds may increase with a large volume of examples and better ones (such as firings etc).
Its mainly supposed to be used together in germany together with the Eurofighter EK in saed missions yes.
But like many other weaponries its system integration is done for every future eurofighter and gains the capability to use them.
Its the same reason the efts in game share armament options, even if 1 specific country didnt use them since the integration covers the other eurofighters as well
Is there any information about integrate CAMM on the Eurofighter? I don’t need AMRAAM I need CAMM.
CAMM, no, not that I’ve ever seen at the very least, but could be wrong.
But ASRAAM is actively used by the RAF on their Typhoons.
yeah i feel like CAMM would be kinda redundant when you have ASRAAM, AMRAAM, and Meteor as AAMs already
With this in mind, Can you review this response from another BRM?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/63xpWzDLjkRA
СAMM-ER looks like a worthy alternative to 120C. But it won’t be possible to install it in 4 fuselage holders, the diameter is 190 mm, and the holders are designed for 177 mm. On the other hand, Meteors are under the fuselage, and СAMM-ER under the wings. Quite an interesting option.
It would be interesting to try to make a modded Typhoon and install СAMM on it, as an alternative to ASRAAM, and СAMM-ER… Like СAMM-ER. Just for a single custom mission, to see what will come of it. But I have no idea how to create a modded vehicle. Theoretically, a СAMM-ER missile suspended under the wing is capable of not only outplaying, but actually humiliating the 120С. Plus it is shorter (almost 80 cm), which means that theoretically it is possible to consider the option of installing it on the inner wing pylon, and the landing gear will not interfere with the missile and vice versa.
In terms of real life, I can never see this happening. Integration costs would be far to high to justify it when AMRAAM is already integrated and we have a large stockpile of missiles already. Definitely would be a unique option though and i kinda wish they would do this.
There is already a technical precedent. The AIM-174 is essentially an anti-aircraft missile mounted on a fighter. And it, unlike the СAMM-ER, is simply huge. By any measure.
Since the AIM-120 is an imported missile for the UК, theoretically access to it could be blocked politically. Therefore, having an alternative missile is not a bad option, as it seems to me.
@Gunjob could you maybe by time pls forward this?
My inner monk cant handle this buggy animation any longer
for the life of me I cannot find it, but I think they are almost going the opposite way and developing something like a mini-ASRAAM instead of considering CAMM-ER on the Typhoon
So with America receiving 2 version of AGM-179, SAL and IR respectively, from what I read, it never had IR Version it’s pretty identical to Brimstone, so why the American one can got it but not the British?
From MatAWG Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9r1Xwro_Rc&t=412s
From what I understand that missile has 3 modes of operation, gaijin just split it into 2 separate missiles for different modes