That is the set of parameters defined by current ARB meta. Closer to the release of Fox-3s into the world of WT meta was flying high, flying fast and rippling your AIM-120s that outranged everything else and people didn’t really knew how to counter properly. Nowadays meta is slinging missiles from a notch at HMD ranges or closer. That is why Rafale is dominating at current top tier, and will dominate no matter what you do simply because MICA is leagues ahead of everything else in these conditions. You can even release F-22 tommorow, but with current AIM-120s it will loose to a Rafale.
Interesting take. MICA is definitely overperforming but I don’t see how MICA is going to take down an F22 that it cannot see.
But that’s all besides the point anyway
MICA will have no problems with seeing F-22 from 15km, dude
I suppose you are right. Let’s get back on topic shall we?
No probs. Captor-E probably gonna be the best radar after the release, looking at the gimbal limits and scan areas. I hope 120s gonna get some buffs so you would be able to actually fight back without relying on your enemy being bad. Would kill for Euromid even with R-77s
1 Like
With all Typhoon gets upgraded radar and also more missile count, it would make the aircraft now pretty comparable to Rafale, since with current standing, Rafale is the only aircraft at 14.3 (soon 14.7) that only had 8 missiles.
200 Degree Scan Coverage is good, it would make smart Typhoon player can play aggressive and passively by consistently notching.
The increase in missiles does not make up for the HOBS performance and better missile.
I wouldn’t compare for example compare the F-4S with the Mig23MLs for this same reason. (Pre radar nerf on those tho)
do you know if the PPI RWR display will ever become like, a hybrid/situational awareness display?
Su-30SM also had HOBS Missile, and it’s still mid because of the FM.
Typhoon FM are okay now because of the new AESA Radar as you can speeding while notching. And with such very high VnE, you could scan wide zone without having to fear your wing ripped out like Rafale that have comically low VnE for toptier standard.
I’d agree EFT used to be mid, but because of compared to Rafale, it’s still the second best jet in the game, and with this AESA and extra 2 missiles, it’s now first and half the best aircraft in the game.
I don’t know about CAPTOR-E being the best radar in the game.
By all accounts CAPTOR-M should have been the best PESA radar in the game but the snail simply said: “Njet, manufakturor is lyink” and made it completely unusable for the first 6 months.
But I havent tested it on DEV so I hope it will be. I seem to remember though that the AESA on the Rafale was purppsefuly left in an underperforming state untill the rest of the techtrees got AESA.
So who knows what the snail comes up with
Was there any other fix in the dev Update except the new Max Altitude of 21km?
Su-30SM is better than Eurofighter exactly because of HOBS missiles. You can work around mediocre FM. I won’t say no to 2 more AMRAAMs but they are definitely not gonna make it close to the Rafale by simple fact that notching AMRAAM is waaay easier than notching MICA. And if both you and Rafale are in a META stalemate, aka both in a notch and both using HMD - Rafale will still have advantage. Even Su-30 with R-77-1 will have better chance of taking you down than you with AIM-120.
2 Likes
R77-1 and AMRAAM have the exact same seeker though
yes, but R-77-1 has much better acceleration and pulls way harder. This makes your reaction window significantly smaller than with 120A or C. And MICA accelerates even harder and pulls even more on top of having slightly better seeker
2 Likes
Would definitely like to mention though as an add on to this, more missiles is DEFINITELY a positive and I thank gaijin for exploring this option. Though I do think it would’ve been better to add them on the inner wing pylon as we haven’t actually seen either option explored on the aircraft in service.
My overarching point though was that the quality of MICA as a missile and the lack of a HOBS missile for AIM-120 users is the primary issue with balance here imo.
I’d never have called it mid, it’s always been good. A HOBS missile is very much desired now though.
Just the fact that MICA’s vastly outclass everything else by a huge margin.
But more missiles simply IS better yes, for the EF. I would have also liked them to use the inner wing pylons sinca that, at least, has been shown on drawings despite it never having been seen IRL.
Captor m is not an ESA radar it’s a normal mechanical radar like an apg 66 or n010 for example
Regardless it should have been thr best M scan radar in thr game, and it definitely wasnt at launch and still isnt today
Doesn’t seem like it will properly demonstrate where the target actually is in relation to you if they’re off to the side or slightly to the rear.
A target that’s actually 90 degrees to your left or right could show up in the frontal sector of the radar screen.