kinda agree on this one, as MMW ARH
you’re making the hypocrisy,… there is chances to disturb the KH-38MT/ML
the problem mostly come from awareness and tactics, mass of explosive, and size of maps within the game
told you no already,… smokescreens are not E-CM in game and in reality,… at the very best they’re IR-CM
the problem is to show gaijin what can be done,…
stop comparing other stuff, they’re IR/TV/GPS, but alll of those are possible to defend from.
in Sinai?!
in Normandie?!
in any open maps? (even town maps are easy to guide FnF in)
that’s not gonna prevent any launch,… Spawns are relatively at the same time
even current SAM system won’t allow full defence, as there is a time between launch and kill
But such smoke DOES exist, good chance most nations already use it. So just make all smoke above 11.0? Also block MMW.
I highly doubt that ALL smoke was IR-CM and yet it blocks TVDs even as low as 7.3 ish.
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THEN PROVE IT GODDAMMIT
THAT’S ALL I ASK FOR!
THAT’S ALL I WANT TO HAVE FOR GAIJIN TO MAKE IT FNF!!!
I LOOKED AT IT AND MANY NATIONS DOESN’T HAVE THOSE SMOKES E-CM
Same is true for ALL other A2G weapons already in game.
Same is true for ALL A2G weapons already in game
Nope, still not 100% defeatable. Guess the only 2 SPAAs that can defeat a barrage of kh-38mt reliably? Chinese one (questionable) and surprise surprise, rusian pantsir.
Then prove that ALL tanks currently in game with smoke had IR-CMs. Even those in WW2
They stand a chance, that is what I mean.
Something like the ADATS or Otomatic, were just free kills.
You couldnt even threaten an AGM-65 slinger let alone KH-38MT
It is a big generalization tho. It depends on the radar frequency, if it will be influenced by that smoke or not.
Again. This is war thunder.
what isn’t generalized/standardized.
If the hurdle to adding MMW is the effectiveness of smoke. Will anyone complain about smoke blocking it?
Beats not having them at all.
Otherwise, lets start modeling IR-CM smoke on a case by case basis and allowing IIR seekers or TVDs to see through smoke if the tank lacked that capability IRL
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Why is it always a fight over something when i look at any of the EFT threads?
Also did they fix the tint on the EFT’s cockpit?
yea, that does not contradict what i said
Never say never, see here from an SB match
Ah typical french main. Doesnt want the Typhoon to be onpar with the rafale.
THESE SOLUTIONS WERE GIVEN TO GAIJIN WHEN THE TORNADO GR4 WAS ON THE DEV SERVER
So stop claiming “well, maybe you should give a valid solution. huh duh.”
Quantity:
SP cost vary based upon the amount taken.
6-9 costs the same amount as the 6-8 FnF weapons already available on fixed wing aircraft.
Taking more than that, increases the cost expoentially.
Coutner play:
2 parts to this
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Being able to fire outsdie of the range of the SPAA. KH-38MT and even the AGM-65 could do this. And now most nations have SAMs that outrange those quite happily
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Defence. Smoke with CMs exists. Evidence of it exists. This can simply be added to all tanks above 11.0 (or whatever BR can face MMW) Much like IR-CM smoke that exists on all tanks, even though I doubt all tanks actually had this IRL.
Lets breakdown their post:
The primary reason is that this seeker utilizes the “lock-on after launch (LOAL)” mode
Brimstones and most MMWs have a LOBL mode. Or they can just fake it like they did with AJ168 and add something that operates basically like any other IIR seeker already in game
They require no challenge to use effectively and have no counterplay options for those being attacked
New SAMs have been added. They can add Chaff smoke.
The attacker can operate outside of the range of any anti-air system in the game
So did KH-38MT and Su-34 that was added in the same update
Brimstone is also immune to smoke, so this won’t help either.
So like msot things, just change them so they are.
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No. Of course not.
Ok you two, off you go
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Well thats annoying
No. Ive blocked him. Hes just as troll.
Hes denying MMW to give Typhoons FnF because of made up nonsense reasons
And he tried to justify Typhoons not being allowed CAPTOR-E because they arent in service yet with Germany, Italy and Britain and have only been tested.
It clear he’s just making up reason to artifiically nerf the Typhoon, much like mutala tried to do
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Man, you crashed yourself out into a hole. We gave solutions, multiple. Go read all the EF threads. Don’t put labels on people if you are not willing to get one yourself. I see, you mad and you don’t fully know yourself why. If they wanted to give some kind of “edge” to any nato country - they would’ve found a way to add brimstones correctly. Best you can do is citing devblog which made everyone extremely mad because of sheer amounts of bs they put in there? Really? What counter play SPAAs have to 38ml airfield spam? What counterplay flarakrad had to 38mt before? I’ll tell you - none, sheesh, zero. They don’t want to do it? Oh hell no, it’s just inconvinient for them, thats it. It’s a new mechanic (hardly though with right implementation scaffolding they like to build). And it negatively impacts their most beloved audience, which they just can’t possibly allow, right? Get yourself together or get out, please.
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