Kh-38 is the best possible missile in this weird game we have. Nothing NATO have is of a similar analogue. I don’t even think mmW Brimstones would replace how good Kh-38 is and with BUK now in game…well it’s all Russia.
At least with Storm Shadow I can launch it from another map
There are a couple of photos showing a British Eurofighter.fittee with ALARM. Integration was cancelled in the end, but I imagine that might be good enough for Gaijin. Germany is out of luck though.
Storm Shadow is not anti-radiation. In game it would likely just be a GPS guided missile with an alright warhead.
They have short range ones as well like the Kh-27 / Kh-25MP / Kh-25MPU
More so thats what has been used in that capacity to target S-400 systems and the like. You don’t really need an ARM if you know where the system you are shooting at is. Plus most SAM batteries combine long/medium and SHORAD systems so they hedge their bets they can intercept the threat rather than turning the Radar off and scooting away.
the Active-Radar Homing mode is not given because the Brimstone works with a radar like system, but the problem would be:
in the world, similar AGM with milliwave radar seekers:
UK:
Brimstone I, II and III (AGM)
India: (UK sub TT)
Nag (ATGM, fired from tanks)
Rudram-1 (AGM)
South Africa: (UK sub TT)
ZT-6 Mokopa (AGM Helos only)
China:
HJ-9 (AGM Helos only) (also Anti-tank from ground platform)
Russia:
Kh-59 Ovod (AGM)
They haven’t bothered doing that for aircraft so I don’t see why they would for tanks (aircraft RCS is based on wingspan IIRC).
Milli-MetricWave Radar Seekers works in a way to create a picture of what they see, then filter the picture with database to find the intended target.
Meanwhile current Air-Air Radar and seekers, simply indicates “there is something there” and uses IFF/teleranging and RCS database to determine what aircraft they have in front of them (modern radars only)
that’s quite different way to process things out.
if you apply current air-air system to Brimstone towards ground target, it could end up targeting everything else than the intended target.
even like this, most MMW ARH seekers are coupled with INS or DL systems, to give an area to scan.
@Kir contacted Bundeswehr about information regarding CAPTOR-E installation. He can’t post due to lack of game activity recently, but asked me to post the response he got on his behalf
AARGM, AARGM-ER, JAGMs, Longbows, GBU-53…
anti radiation missiles,… not all purpose AGM
it’s guidance is based from the SAM emissions,… not like MMW ARH seekers which emits a wave which comeback to get analysed
AGM-179 in-game uses the NIR (Near Infrared Seeker) for terminal FnF,
or SAL guidance (for similar reasons than Brimstones)
not the MMW-ARH seeker
AGM-144L Longbows have the same problem, hence why Gaijin still not added despite so many demands.
AGM-114K was the answer from Gaijin
they were not added to any Plane (apart drones if i recall)
GBU-53/B does use a panoply of terminal guidance, and could be used with IR or SAL within game, without requiring to add any MMW ARH to the game. (similar to the AGM-174)
i also didn’t reached on the Vastly outnumbering US variants of AGM’s, as i went for lunch while finishing my previous post,…
is the prominent problem.
and they added AGM that would be used with other Guidance Mode
Incorrect. Both incorporate MMW seekers for terminal guidance, or for radars that turn off mid flight.
AARGM-ER is to the point it is basically going to replace the AGM-65 as the SiAW, with a different warhead I assume.
Well yes, but no.
I think you are just overthinking it.
Just model it exactly like IIR, with different lock ranges and can see through smoke unless that smoke has chaff in it.
Easy.
Why does every nation need MMW before MMW can be added?
By that logic, remove all TV/IR Seekers because not every nations has those at top tier.
Besides, loads do:
Britain, Germany, Italy and Sweden (via Gripen E intergration, which could also include Japan via Indonesian Gripen Es): Brimstone 2+
US: JAGM-F, GBU-53
You already mentioned options for the Soviets and China
Israel and Japan can probably just use the same as the US if in doubt
So whos left?
Only France? If you are saying that MMW cannot be added because france doesnt use MMW, then… well… do I really need to say anything more
And again… they could very easily end up with MMW just being a sidegrade to conventional IIR.
Also, I don’t think that Ovod use mmW seeker.
JAGM, JAGM-MR, Brimstone 1/2/3/DM, SPEAR 3 and AGM-114L.
Those are just some of the MMW missiles I know of. I’m sure there is more and more foreign systems I don’t know of.
It’s a wiiiidddddeee selection of vehicles, land, naval, rotary and fixed wing.
*MR
AKD-21 (Or BA-21) also maybe… Chinese ARH SDB… Uh. I should look for more information.
It’s a pretty long list indeed. Why I didn’t accept the framing of it being “too much work” that @Cpt_Bel_V suggested.
MMW isnt in game yet for the same reasons that have always been given. They don’t know how to balance it yet.
It seems to me that the developer should first start with airborne radars with NCTR for ground targets, for example, same Apache.
SiAW/AARGM-ER, is the closest I can think of
Litening V has an IRST mode btw, so PIRATE won’t be needed.
If they ever correctly implemented TGP A2A modes…
