Idk about other jets, but the Typhoons Preatorian DASS system has the ability to determine ideal time to deploy countermeasures to defeat the incoming missile. Ive also seen that its supposed to display stearing cues in the HUD for ideal missile defense as well, tho that claim im less sure about.
Pretty much everything does that at this point, problem is if your MAWS is telling you when to deploy your flares you also have to be in this 30° by 30° box with the missile on your 6 for it to work. The whole process is just unfun for gameplay, which is why there’s a whole lot less pilots as games would imply.
Rather, when deploying chaff will be useless - so as not to waste it.
Lulzwhat is the know troll from RU-forum. Ignore him
Your statement is objectively wrong. Notching always work when properly done. IRIS-T on the other hand is nearly impossible to flare. But things will not get better when you obtain your iris-t since MICA also has an IR variant with datalink. It will enjoy quite a bit range advantage over your IR missiles.
Also, although the radar is extremely good I don’t think it’s still anywhere near to it’s irl capabilities. Also MICA lacks it’s true long range capability at the moment which is either a technical difficulty on game engine or intentional to balance it’s excellent off-bore capability.
Overall I’d say Typhoon rules long and medium range while Rafale wants to be closer to it’s enemy which is fair and not “unbalanced”. In a guns only fight Typhoon still holds a slight edge too. Typhoon can also choose when to fight and disengage at will since it has way better high speed performance.
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We have “smart” countermeasures, there is always a counter.
I dont believe Gaijin will model them with their realistic IRCCM. The game has to give players the chance to defeat these missiles.
Typhoons Radar currently means you cannot dictate combat, it’s a jump scare simulator right now!
You have 6 120s and you end up launching them at nothing…your TWS has locked up some fluff and ignored the massive F-15E!
Yes and no. “Smart countermeasures” are thing but not in the game atm and we do not know how they’d with gaijin’s modelling.
On the other hand they can introduce those with reduced capacity and I wouldn’t mind that for the sake of gameplay, but I don’t how others would react to that when their favored toys get that treatment.
As for radar, it needs an urgent flx for sure. But it is still somewhat workable with narrow scan.
React? It’s already happening.
Magic 2, MICA EM, DM-53, Brimstone and SRAM it’s all nerfed or changed for gameplay purposes.
French mains are dumping bug reports now that MICAS range should be equal to an Aim 120…
But if Gaijin do that and give France 8 of the best long range and short range missiles it breaks the game.
We would need “advanced” flares for protection from the next gen of IR missiles.
It’s terrible the Typhoon Radar is holding the jet back and I feel deliberately
Since the Eurofighters RWR can detect the Pantsir, shouldnt it also get a launch warning from it?
No, because the detection radar is a different frequency than the tracking radar. But there’s a report anyway that Eurofighter should detect tracking radar.
Its RWR can detect both the search and track radar of the Pantsir (its tracking radar only shows as ? tho instead of S1). You do get warned that you are being tracked by said ?, which is the Pantsir but you dont get a warning for the launch, even tho I am pretty sure I got a launch warning from the Pantsir in the AH-64 Peten in the past
isnt it like beam riding or command guided?
Based upon a segment from “Typhoon” by Mike Sutton, the RWR should be able to determine exactly what state the radar is in, so yeah, definetly should be working.
As for it showing up as “?” its not the only thing, with Su-33s doing the same. Hopefully will be fixed in one of the next major updates
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Pretty sure the tracking radar still give guidance commands to the missile
the ? shenanigans seems like gaijin laziness.
because quite often its new jets that dont show up on older jets’ rwrs
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It can be used in manual and automatic modes.
and it has Electro optical guidance/tracking
Yeah, happens all the time, but rather funny when it occurs on a new jet added in the same update as said new jet that shows up as ?
Pretty sure even in these modes, it should still give a warning. The Roland system for example does too
Honestly not sure. Russia are the top when it comes to SHORAD systems
EF can’t even use the most prominent inner wing pylon for something useful. You only might fit drop tanks on it, but in Air RB they’re useless. Short game duration (seriously, this gamemode needs a fix) and EF is comsuming fuel at low rate. You just never need it, so the pylons remain empty. Weak loadout for max BR jet. Thats embarracing, while other planes might go in fully equipped.
Faulty radar. Still just AIM120. Forced empty pylons. Looks almost like if they wanted the EF beeing overshadowed by Rafale. While everyone expected EF to be op, it turns out the undisputed star of last update is the Rafale with its extensive loadout and the op radar + mica combo. Also FM wise and in Ground Forces, it has by far superior loadout vs ground. EF has no chance. Everyone grinding Rafale now and EF is biting dust along the road of fail.
Imho F-4F Ice radar + AIM120 feels more reliable than EF + 120’ties.
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