Eurofighter Typhoon - Germany's Best Fighter Jet

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6986

My Brimstone’s consistently one shotting anything so i dont think damage output is the problem.

Yeah but EFT’s flight performance allows you to fire them at very high speeds which is compensates its slow speed.

Thats why we have 18 Brimstone option.

Not sure about that, i managed to get kills from long ranges without too much issue.

Brimstone 2 could be nice addition and im supporting that, as long as it comes with Laser mode for now.

When the right time comes it can recieve MMW and LOAL capabilities.

6987

So you want the same amount of FnFs as Su-34 while being better in literally everything else.
I don’t think that’s balanced.

6988

Oh, so the EFT can’t have six IR F&F Brimstones but everything else can have six IR F&F weapons?

Seems to me like you just don’t want the EFT to be a part of the group. Why aren’t you moaning about the Rafale with its six AASMs and when it’s better in everything else?

6989

Kh38 do alot more damage and have alot more range

Even AASM on the Rafale is really good which i don’t see you moaning about

6990

Rules for thee but not for them.

6991

Yes as it’s literally better in everything else than Su-34. Remember, that’s a 12.7 aircraft as well.

6992

Go and moan about every other jet that is better than the Su-34 in “everything else” while also having as many F&F weapons then. Lets see you practice what you preach.

Suddenly balance is a problem when it comes to the EFT, but everything else gets a silent pass.

6993

Su-34 is allowed to be the best in a single category as it sucks in everything else.

Learn how balance should work before spewing out utter nonsense.

6994

You are comparing one of the best 4.5 gen multirole fighters to a Russian fat duck strike plane what did you expect about the flight performance

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6995

You still haven’t explained why F-16C with six Mav Ds is fine, or why Rafale with six Hammers is fine, you’re spewing hypocrisy left and right.

Learn how balance should work before spewing out utter nonsense.

So far nothing but hypocrisy of how the EFT needs to be singled out has left your mouth.

6996

FM is the part of plane’s efficiency so should be looked at when balancing things.

6997

Ok it is lower BR complain about BR compression not that the Eurofighter is too op

(Also you still haven’t mentioned why the Rafale gets a pass)

6998

Except the Su-25SM3 was insanely OP as it was with 4x KH-38s. That was reasonable balance, except for the fact that only the Pantsir could fight it. Giving the Su-34 KH-38s was just not necessary.

6999

Su-25SM3 shouldn’t (from what I’ve heard) even have Kh-38 btw. It can’t use them IRL and has never used them IRL.

It was given them solely for “balance”

7000

Great… Meanwhile nations had to deal with nerfed tornados with nerfed loadouts for years.

7001

I’m just calling out BS of EFT needing FnF on the premise of Su-34 having them.

65Ds and AASMs weren’t needed as well.

Following a discussion isn’t your strong point.

7002

The premise is irrelevant. I’m questioning why you’ve been going in circles about how the Su-34 needs to be the focal point of the discussion when we’ve had jets with arguably better F&F ordnance in the game for years. Two, if 65Ds and AASMs were never needed, neither were Kh-38s, you can’t eat the cake and have the cake, either we treat all nations equally where they can be treated or we subscribe to double standards.

Following a discussion isn’t your strong point.

Ah, so pointing out how hypocritical your arguments have been is a bad thing now? ;)

Seems like I’m on a good track, especially since my answer was for @Morvran, it was you who tagged me and asked me what amount I’d be fine with.

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7003

Both are at the same BR.
EFT can get better missiles after we get more BRs.

It shouldn’t.

7004

Because everything needs to have it’s strong points ?

Yes they were as KHs compensate for all the cons the platform itself has.

Good thing people like you aren’t in charge of balancing.

7005

To sum up.

Typhoon, Rafale, Su-34, F-15E, F-16C, Gripen. All have fairly equal flight model effeciency in game but the only one without FnF AGMs is the Typhoon.

Brimstone 1s on a 1 to 1 basis is by far the weakest AGM equipped to any aircraft at top tier.

The main advantage of the Brimstone is quantity. This is mitigated by SAL only as you can only engage 1 target at time. (the same way the F-15Es 28? GBU-39s are mitigated by being GPS only)

Typhoons never used Brimstone 1s

Typhoon should recieve historically accurate Brimstone 2s that can remain SAL only for now due to the quantity advantage. Brimstone 2s would lever the playing field in terms of raw missile performance and give the Typhoon an AGM that might actually be able to outrange most top tier SPAA like the KH-38 or AASM can.

if mmW cant be added for years though, then IR placeholder seeker should be considered, because Brimstone nerfs in ground modes is one thing, but the fact they are essentially removed from ever being worth equipping in air modes like Sim is another entirely.

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