The harriers I agree with, as well as the J8F. Good points
The Tomcat A & B, and Mig29SMT I rate equal to ICE at least.
Not in missile power alone, but including the flight performance they are at least equal.
As I said, the ONLY thing. And I mean literally the ONLY thing the ICE has is its missile power. It has literally no other redeeming factor. To me at least.
It’s also got a better RWR than the aforementioned aircraft as far as I am aware (except the FA2) and also more CMs (except the harriers and Viggen). Radar is a little better than some of them as well.
Whilst they arent the best, the ability to run 4x Aim-9Li at the same time shouldn’t be underrated either, given the F14A only has rear aspect IRs
I know the ice has limitations but I think it’s massively underrated
I think many would pay that amount for the best jet in the game to effortlessly grind through the whole TT.
German premiums are lacking quite a lot, with most being bomb buses so an actual higher/top tier fighter would be neat.
Granted that that image IS a meme and not a factual statement.
I just personally absolutely DESPISE the ICE so much. I was turned off from it when it was introduced to the game at the same time as freaking F15s.
THEN I had to try to do something in it with 4 AIM9Ls vs F15s that GE’ed AMRAAMS.
None of those things are failings of the ICE. Its my own mindset and experience with a 3rd gen jet put into top tier matchmaker trying to do things it wasnt mean to do.
But massively underrated? I dont think so. It gets memed on, for sure, but I really do think that it really IS just a missile bus. It has practically 0 worth in a defensive posture or in a dogfight.
Stay offensive, or die. Those are your options. Well, again, thats how it felt to me.
Eurofighter truely is a godsent as it CAN do all the things that ICE couldnt dream of. Eurofighter can take almost any fight you want and it will just do it well.
I also would like to pose a question to my fellow Eurofighter pilots.
What on earth am I meant to do against a Rafale that has 8 MICA’s?
“Do not get into a dogfight with them.”
I try that but I my radar has only HMD PD mode so I cant do BVR or standoff combat.
They can very easily get into 15km and then shoot the single best dogfight missile in the game at me. 9 out of 10 times I just die. It corrects SO fast that if you leave the notch for even half a second it will correct and just straight up murder you.
its flight performance matches the EF in most cases so I cant run from it either.
its flight performance matches the EF in most cases so I cant run from it either.
Hope that Gaijin fixes EFTs ITR and STR so that if you do get into a position to dogfight one, you’ll be able to wrap it up quickly.
Other than that, nothing. Radar’s too dog to reliably engage Rafale’s from long range.
I dont know what that first image is supposed to mean but I assume its “Death” or something.
After seeing what KH38 an Mavericks do in Top tier GRB, I just don’t understand why Brimstones got added as laser homing missiles. Its just not fair. Holding this laser pointer is just death sentence. Impractical beyond words.
Can’t some mods talks to Gajin cause I just don’t understand it. All top BR aircraft have F&F ordnance, why get the EF singled out here? Its meh as ground striker, just not up to max BR.
The Eurofighter with mm wave radar guided Brimstones would be hilariously op unless it was limited to only 3-6 of them
Even then, the radar Brimstones see through smoke and can be fired from behind cover, so they don’t really have any counterplay
Never
They could just make them work like Mavericks or KH’s do. They’re also too slow to hold the point all the time. The tactic described above depends on enemy vehicles to be where you expect them 10 secs before impact, this is lol.
Sorry…even my 10.3 Phantom with AGM-65 is alot more useful here. If the Brimstone is too advanced it can’t be that it suddenly performs worse than 10.x weapon systems. Then better not add them.
They can just make it IR they already messed up Brimstone entire guided system with give it just laser
They just don’t want anyone to complete with Russian and US CAS
No, they’re still potent enough, if you’re a good player and terrain allows it you can pop up, press f in third person view to lock an enemy and fire your brimstone, this can be done in less than 3 seconds, it will track and kill if you’re more than 1 km out, sometimes even inside 1km.
And if terrain doesn’t allow it just outrange most spaa, a pantsir won’t be able to hit you at 12 km (i’ve died more to VT1 than pantsir) if you’re maneuvering a bit and just guide in the brimstone at the last 10 seconds (this is a bit harder to do tho).
Plus you have more endurance than an su34 or and f16/15 you just need to play smart and not just dive on people expecting to not die.
Brimstones are perfectly capable weapons at top tier, I’ve seen people getting 20+ kill games using them
If gaijin wants to add anything they should add the Brimstone II and lock it to SAL, it has a much better motor and is a lot faster
Brimstones are excellent ingame right now, you just need to use your brain to utilise them. If someone still thinks Brimstones are bad then it’s a skill issue
Doing it isn’t the problem the problem is why I had to do all that? while SU-34 can just yeet all KH-38 at different target right after they spawn and then rearms
Why don’t Eurofighter allow to do the same?
I don’t want to be a scientist to be able to score with Brims. I just wan’t lock up things and press spacebar, like I do with my 10.3 Phantom or Su-24 and KH’s. Works
This Brimstone nonsense has too many 'if’s. Too complicated to use. Alone that they expect you to hold the point for 60 seconds when you shot from like 10-12km. Its just not viable.
So your complaint is that it’s different? That’s it? Because gaijin wants it to be different.
That’s the neat part you don’t, the brimstones have iog meaning if you put your mark on enemy spawn and fire your brimstones they will go in that general direction and you can turn on laser to guide it in before it hits, you can turn off automatic laser enabling in settings (also you cant drop paveways in gps mode without it off)
Alone that you have to write whole abstacts to explain how to use Brims in GRB shows how meh they’re.
I mean, when I sport my Su-24 and I just lock and shot (and get out into safety). Thats it. F&F is fotm, not the laser pointing dip out, dip back 3D puzzle laser pointing bleh.
Listen, i would have preferred to have 6 brimstones with actual guidance too but even that would have been too strong while also carrying 6-8 paveways in addition so to me it makes sense why they gimped it by only having laser targeting.
Or who knows maybe the alternative would have been to make it cost 1500 SP
