Congratulations for marking everything I said that would be out of metal…
Outer skin and inner structure are made from CFP while landing gear bay, some control surfaces and some connection parts (wing to body) are made of metals.
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Every plane uses the max airframe limits in WT,m not operating limits…
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That’s your phrase
The Gripen is not intended to do more than 9G once every 1000 flight hours and 12G less often. The Viggen was rated similarly, 9G every 1,000 flight hours but has no overload beyond that. The Gripen is prone to cracks and unlike the Viggen ended up with higher than expected wear/tear IRL.
The Eurofighter design is better than the Gripen, but the aircraft is also much larger and heavier.
I think there was a miscommunication, he contradicted himself in his own statement and it confused everyone. I think we are all on the same page.
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Then read the rest of the sentence where I list the exceptions. Can’t be that complicated…
There is a language barrier, if you say something and then contradict it you will not do yourself any favors. “Everything is yellow”, “except for everything that is yellow and falls under this list”, proceeds to list half the airframe.
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Is there really no concept in other languages like “Everything except [list]”?
This is a known logical contruct in programming languages too so I kind of doubt that.
And this is game… noone cares about wear.
They take max Gs airframe can handle and slap x1.5 on it.
Everything is like that if they have values for that. I would be perfectly fine if they removed x1,5 and the max limitations and use operational limits but keep in mind. These “operational limits” can be overriden in most planes in case of emergency - defending missiles, avoiding ground and so on.
Mirage can pull around 11Gs irl and only thing you have to do is overcome stick resistance and then it pulls. F-18, press paddle and you override G-limiter. Iam pretty sure rafale, EF, Gripen, Flankers allow for same thing. F-15s pulled insane Gs to avoid collisions too. Just because they use 9Gs because they dont have constantly amraam on their ass, doesnt mean plane cant do it in actual war.
In reality, they will do this 1 time during the entire flight, and possibly for the entire operation, after which they will be repaired or put in the trash
Usually it is not quoted as “everything” and then subsequently “but not this”.
Yes, the documents matter more than anything else. Documents say maximum overload is up to 12 and that is permissible for the pilot so they haphazardly slap x1.5 factor on that.
The problem is that for the Gripen the 1.5x safety factor is applied to 9G IRL. The Gripen is designed to survive up to a 13.5G pull once. The modern methods of airframe inspection and testing allow them to validate airframes that have exceeded 9G for continued service so they allow pilots to come much closer to that limit in emergencies.
This isn’t the Gripen thread so if you’d like to continue the discussion we can move. What ties this in with the Eurofighter is that the fittings for the wing to attach to the airframe are not well suited for 18G maneuvers by ANY means. That’s just an absurd number.
Well, guess what you do in WT, pay for repairs after battle :D
In reality, if you take amraam headon, you die, you dont fly another day.
This is untrue, there are cases of AMRAAM not fusing properly and other issues. In fact, the kill rate of AMRAAM in-game for targets above 100m is far too high. That is the case with all missiles in-game though.
If the peak is 18G before ripping the EF will never rip in-game. According to the in-game FM stats it rips at 13.8 G at minimum fuel. At least according to statshark.
Edit: Might actually be misleading since statshark often has problems with canard planes because non-canard planes like the 16A have much higher rip G’s, such as 17G
Come on a fully loaded Phantom has been pulling 8g in this game long before the Gripen.
My Eurofighter is not fully upgraded but it seems to rip right as it says 14G usually.
@Gunjob If you say it is intended to rip at 18G I’d happily do a report. This thing will be an absolute monster and then it can get rightly nerfed again soon after.
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This has been a problem long before the F-4 as well but that is beside the point. Those fighters compress at higher speeds generally and only do it for short durations. The Eurofighter would sustain a 14+ G turn for almost a full 360 or maybe more.
Probably recalling the figure from the dev server.
I have a source for G onset of 15G would that count for a higher Rip G load or ist the G onset not long enough?
i postet it on the forum once but here u go
Spoiler
G Onset is how quickly you can pull g, not how many g you can pull.
The Eurofighter airframe was designed for 9g flight with 100% internal fuel and two ASRAAM missiles.
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