Ahh ok should be good to come then right
90kN for 0m-0M
a good speed will more
you mean 1.1-1.2?
Max fuel + 1 centerline tank + LANTIRN pods + launchers is 54,500lb ( with no CFT’s)
Total thrust is 58320lbf… giving 1.07.
8 amraam’s is probably similar to the lantirn pods and the centerline tank is in the 4000lb region.
Total thrust is 32000kgf, x2.2 is 70400lbf [specifically a bit more since 2.2 is rounding down], not 58320.
Typhoon wasn’t tested with center-line tank though I will personally.
And LANTIRN makes no sense since it’d be AAM loadout.
While localhost can’t be used for bug reports, it’s still giving us the players factual information.
Why are you comparing the F15E’s dynamic thrust at 0.9m to the Eurofighter’s static thrust (120kn or 180kn on reheat) at sea level?
I tnk Bcs wdk ef dyn trst.
I… have no idea what you just said.
I think because we don’t know EF dynamic thrust
Ah, ok. Then why not just compare the F15E’s ingame static thrust with the EFT’s?
Ask Alwis
That’s Thrust at high speed though, right?
I guess the 58320Ibf is the immediate available thrust at static or lower speeds.
So using the same available thrust data “the ones available from the manufacturer” we get:
Eurofighter: 39.600Ibf 24.251Ib 1.63
F-15E : 58320Ibf 34.526Ib 1.68
Those should be the absolute highest TWR ratios of both of them, since that’s with the “empty weight” used.
I can’t seem to find a proper gross weight for both of them where they state exactly what loadout is used so don’t have anything to compare to each other.
For all its worth, an EFT will full internal fuel, one pilot weighing 90kg, two aim-9 (170.6kg) and 6 aim-120 (969kg) weighs 17225.6kg. Which means that with its static thrust alone it has a TWR of 1.066 when using reheat.
That is an extremely chonky Eurofighter at 37.895.000Ib :D
When you accidentally add three 0’s in your post… Math should still check out though.
Yeah I don’t think the Eagle gets away with having a better TWr in combat scenarios.
The F-15 has just so much more fuel when using the conformal tanks, which they usually do.
It’s 5000kg interal for the Eurofighter vs 5800kg internally for the F-15E but that skyrockets to 15800kg with the CFT’s.
Since the F-15E’s engines use 12% more fuel in the same timeframe they would need to carry more fuel to have the same combat time.
I am really eager to see the performance differences between them, it’s going to be pretty close I reckon. Not to mention that the Eurofighter should have excellent dogfighting performance with that amount of thrust and Delta-Canard setup.
What are you trying to calculate?
At beginning climb speed, it’s the same metric I’ll use for my Typhoon time to altitude.
We’re not climbing at 0 speed, so there’s no reason to use static thrust.
It’s also why I’m not using Typhoon’s alleged 20,000lbf, cause IDK if that’s static or at-speed, and I don’t know what its at-speed thrust will be.
@Sean74218
Initial climb estimates.
The static thrust of the EFT is 40000lb you can see that from multiple sources.
You forget about the loss of thrust
Who me? No i didnt were strictly talking about uninstalled thrust static thrust as alvis mentions the static uninstalled thrust for the F-15E.