I don’t get why everyone is so hung up on the IRST.
Yeah it is somewhat useful. But the germans won’t get as much milage out of it as the brits.
Since the HMD can be slaved to the missile seeker like in the f16c and the short range of the iris-t. The irst is much more useful for it’s range than it’s angles.
So it is much more useful in combination with the ASRAAM anyway.
The PIRATE IRST can be used for guiding AMRAAM without giving any RWR warning to the enemy (until AMRAAM goes active)
At what ranges?
And how useful is it in WT where the RWR is oversaturated with signals anyway?
I think even without IRST the german typhoons will be fine.
tho irl it can also just use datalink to guide in an amraam without rwr warnings
Sure every EF will be doing good,
+I say the germans obe also look better because no IRST
That would be useless until three quarters of players died.
Currently in WT where the RWR is oversaturated, so TWS ping is meanless.
And honestly If you have a Radar with a certain level of performance or higher, IRST is not that much useful.
so I don’t care about German EF 's lack of IRST.
150-165km in optimal scenarios (current irsts peak at 50km btw). More than enough to be very useful, particularly in BVR.
Leonardo have advertised its effective range as ‘comparable to weapons carried’.
The IRST functions is utilised as a radar would but with a different form of radiation and is of course passive.
As has been mentioned very useful for slaving ASRAAM from long range, also due to the 2 way datalink it can guide the missile all the way in. I suspect the ARH seeker may not even need to go active but I’m still looking for confirmation.
How so?
Irst usuall are passive sensors, while radar is active.
That is a massive difference.
Fair on the range though, i didn’t know it was that long.
I mean in its utility. PIRATEs main selling point as you say is that it is entirely passive even compared to other IRSTs which utilise laser range finders and are therefore not actually passive.
It has TWS, A2G and area search modes, it functions as a MAWS (UV) compared to a PD MAWS, also can function as a FLIR and ultra-long-range thermal ‘camera’.
Also has similar (maybe a bit worse) azimuth bounds to traditional non-gimballed AESA arrays at around 150.
names the missles in development phase nice
The big fat rocket on the left looks like a nice stand off missle , ah damn its a ship missle
Ahh spice 250 is what i am looking for. thing is wild so many in development weapons
Ok, so you meant to say it is like a radar in it’s application not function. This was misleading.
Still, it won’t beuch of an issue if the germans don’t get it
spice-250er is kinda as competition to spear-3. advantage being 4 on eurofighter. that mounting doesnt work tho, it has to be further forward to not interfere with the gear which is how it should be irl as the pylon is further forward.
same for 2x feanix on the inner pylon. 2xfcaam on itspl is wild tho
somehow the outer wing pylons is missing tho
i am suprised they didnt model it with the AMK version as well for the heck of it.
Besides that spear 3 was the upgraded version of brimstones so to say.
So either way it would be an even further upgrade. Makes me wish germany would have went straight for the spear-3
the new german IR missle is propably what i am looking forward the most
well its diehl’s advertisement.
they’re the contractor for all of these (they build rbs15mk3 for germany and have an MOI with hensoldt and i think airbus for spice 250er)
so they dont really care about AMK
fcaam is really cool, its supposedly stackable like 2 on top of each other for stealth fighters, thats why its so flat
but i think its gonna be a while before we see that if at all.
IRIS-T Block 2 will be first
but propably only ship launched i guess
Honestly making the efts capable of using them just for the sharibility just be a priority
Same how i dont understand that the EFT still isnt officialy allowed to carry the Taurus
definitly intresting
for germany its the ship launched variant so far.
i doubt theres a lot of modifications needed for it to be air launchable but afaik thats called the mk4 then
EF doesnt carry Taurus yet because there was no need. hell, even the tornado replacement wasnt set in stone.
except ASRAAM doesnt have a datalink
Slave=ASRAAM
2 way data-link=arh’s like flame and faster boi mentioned.
Finally, having all British vehicles unlocked is a bonus for me. 😁
