And IRIS-T being launched with 0 initial velocity + there’s a bunch of videos where it hits a really fast moving missiles. dk which ones though.
Mach 0.6 is fast, but a missile isnt defending its flying in straight line. Your aircraft in game are flying near double that. And changing direction
95% success rate of anything. Patriot success rate is much lower. Some putting it at 70%
Im not getting into who lies the most its a pretty close run thing.
By far it’s not.
Patriot is much older as well. HtK too. Many factors. I don’t really know how SR is calculated. But I know it depends on how widespread, old and popular missile is.
Sensor system of IRIS-T is more advanced than of a Patriot.
I was refering to the propaganda from both sides.
Patriot is older but the missiles arent, PAC 3 Patriot missiles are capable of intercepting near anthing even the Hypersonics…
SM-6 also states in testing it acheived 100% of the interceptions. These arent real world conditions though.
IRIS-T is an incredbile system, just dont be surprised in game when you still die to a Kh-38MT
in reality under real life conditions it got a 99% inertecption rate… not like we are allowed to use that data for … reasons. but yeah, its just gonna be that we will be oversaturated by missles and cant realy shoot back. At least if they would increase intercepting rewards
Wasn’t there a proposal to upgrade some of the german typhoons with more ecm equipment and harm to replace the current tornados? I assume it was scrapped but i cant find info on it anymore. Was supposed to be the Typhoon ecr or something.
I found it.
Yeah, spear-ew and potentially harm.
It’s in development and will release with or just after Tranche 5 will include SAABs Arexis EW system which imho should be standardised on EFT Tranche 5 and will also potentially include ECRS MK.2 IIRC.
More sources are available in German under the name Eurofighter EK
Neat to know its not just vaporware.
Arexis is on the Gripen E’s yeah? Weird it’ll be very interesting to see how it performs on the EFT hoping it might be expanded on with the EFT but i guess time will tell.
Yes Arexis is the one on the Gripen E. It consistently ranks as either the first or second best self protection EW system in the world. EuroDASS is also getting an upgrade though with the Praetorian upgrade package set to release as part of P4E iirc with Leonardo UK as project lead.
Given Germany has chosen Arexis I assume that it’s better than this Praetorian+ thing but it could also just be that as Arexis will be done by Airbus the workshares might work out better for Germany as Leonardo is doing the upgrade’s in Luton, UK.
Kh-101 is subsonic weapon, non-stealthy
Yep the EF is getting an Arexis variant thats Upgraded with Ai systems from Helsing
yes and ?
It isn’t really all that impressive. I’m sure it can handle fast maneuvering targets but not as well as other SPAA (as far as range goes)
yes though that can be said about any system if u compare it to one wich has more range.
My Point is that in its range its the Deadliest system right now.
Yeah that’s true
A Strela will already guarantee a kill within 3-5 km(depending), i think the Iris-T will extend that to about 6-8km, but this still sucks because USSR will still have the best standoff AT weapon (by far) and this addition won’t help much at intercepting munitions(doesn’t have enough ammo for that anyway).
At least it’ll have smokes and we get to see the iris-t in its first form in game.
I am curious if they’ll add it to Germany as well, i doubt it but maybe it’s a ITO situation?
Germany will likely get their own system thats been mentioned on a few threads, really a better system imo but honestly so far nothing to surpass the Pantsir which means for the most part they are kinda useless imo
i mean even if we get another system. its likely a IRIS-T SLS system, the SLS still is restricted to 12km max.
Our next step would be the SLM, but high chances we get a 40km missle.
I highly doubt it
There is no other AIO system yet, the Boxer Mounted Iris-t would indeed be better, because it can elevate itself(more range) and could have 6 mounted at a time, but that will only be completed “by 2028”.
thats a concept drawing, it isnt known yet how many missles it will carry at once. could be more could be less. And the way is fired, the range factor will be minimal
Yeah it could look completely different anyway.
But launch parameters always contribute to range, the missile not having to turn itself upon launch will inevitably save energy and range.