I’m not expecting to see them in 2025, at least not on the typhoon, because they would be WAY too strong. But double the pull and triple the range of an R-73 and you get something roughly close to an IRIS-T
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“roughly close” to an “IRIS-T”
Personally, EF-2000 T4 (Project Quadriga) after EF-2000 (T3 or T3A) to late rank 9 or early rank 10 but battle rating 15.3 minimum
I might want gajin add AIM-2000 (early) to replace AIM-9M on EF-2000 T2 Blk 10 after decompression BR to 14.3
After gajin decompressed max BR to 14.3, AIM-9M replace with AIM-132 (Blk I) on Typhoon FGR.4
I’m not sure about this statement even though I know you’re not being completely serious. I have seen others repeat something like this however. I know the IRIS-T should be the best dogfighting missile in existence, but some of the claims are exaggerated even though it’s an exceptional missile. For instance the claim of 100G or double the pull of R-73.
The claim of “100G” and “double the pull of R-73” originated from sources stating that the IRIS-T had the a radius close to, or half of that of the R-73. People then misunderstood this to mean that the IRIS-T had double the pull or 100G when in reality the IRIS-T just used either a low-thrust engine or some kind of scheme where there’s multiple motors in the missile with only one being activated in order to have low-thrust which allows for tighter turn radius for the missile.
But the low-thrust scheme which allows for a smaller turn radius may mean that the range is its trade-off.
I had a hunch that we wait Meteor for 4.5 gen fighter aircraft from 5 countries until 2030 or 2032
Less average, however, is the propulsion. The IRIS-T is equipped with a solid fuel rocket motor. This rocket motor sets itself apart from others by providing a 4 staged thrust which works as follows:
Stage #1: High thrust to boost the missile away from the launching platform
Stage #2: Low thrust to allow the missile to turn up to 180° at high angular velocities
Stage #3: High thrust to reach its max speed of around mach 3
Stage #4: Low thrust sustainer for minimizing energy loss for longer distance shots
Coupled with said rocket motor comes a thrust vectoring and fin controlled tail section which grants the IRIS-T its super high maneuverability and 360° protection. The IRIS-T is said to be faster than the Sidewinders, it’s been replacing, through a combination of lower drag and higher overall thrust.
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Yup, sounds about right, 4 stages. The interesting part will be to see how Gaijin models this.
Yeah, I was just being overly simplistic and I know it’s more complicated than that. But if I were to try and imagine a missile like IRIS-T in game using existing missiles as a reference point, then imaging Magic II or R-73s with a much tighter turn radius / ability to hit something massively off-boresight and at a greater range is a fairly good starting point
Like ASRAAM I’m basically picturing an AMRAAM with an IR Seeker and an overall much lower max range (though I usually fire AMRAAMs at the same kind of range i imagine I would usually use ASRAAM at) but with much bigger pull and scarily fast off the rails
there’s already multiple thrust motors in war thunder. cant image expanding it to do more than just 2 is hard
But allegedly the IRIS-T is “smart” enough to know when to engage or not engage the other motors just yet, or to engage all 4 stages at the same time for maximum acceleration/thrust so it would be more complicated than just that, no?
looks at hellfire never using the right lofting mode
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afaik it just burns with different thrust, no re-lighting.
this is just achieved by chaging the geometry of the propellant
What sort of performance boost will that give compared to the 9M?
Considering top tier should be 15.0-16.0 without any more additions, do we really need something to get much better and only go up by 0.3?
Aim-2000 is IRIS-T. I doubt they would ever add an early version and would be a major buff for the typhoon. Probably would push the typhoon up at least 0.7 BR I reckon
u are aware the Tranche 4 doesnt even exist yet? same with the F-35
They will come at one point but not now
IRIS_T at least should come soonish this year is my guess with meteor a bit later
I’m guessing IRIS-T/ASRAAM on things like the tornado this year. Typhoon and other dogfighter, sometime early next year
I’m hoping this year will be a focus on things like ECM, IR combat overhaul and CBUs. Maybe also ARM with the SAM expansion planned for top tier ground
AIM-2000 speed & maneuvrability better AIM-9M
Personally, might be EF-2000 T3A & T4 (Project Quadriga) BR 15.3 ~ 16.0
I suppose gajin decompression max BR to 14.3 before AIM-2000 (e) instead AIM-9M on EF-2000 T2 Blk 10
u mean like they limited fox3 to gen 3 carriers at first as well?
they wont do it, they will add it to top tier straight away
Was thinking like how A-10/Harrier Gr7 were some of the first with all-aspect IR missiles
Personally, the early 5th gen IR Air-to-Air missile with image seeker 128*128 pixel but no feature datalink & LOAL
AIM-2000 (early) none LOAL capabilities and lack datalink, my guess
You wait Meteor for 4.5 gen fighter aircraft in 5 or 6 years