We have “smart” countermeasures, there is always a counter.
I dont believe Gaijin will model them with their realistic IRCCM. The game has to give players the chance to defeat these missiles.
Typhoons Radar currently means you cannot dictate combat, it’s a jump scare simulator right now!
You have 6 120s and you end up launching them at nothing…your TWS has locked up some fluff and ignored the massive F-15E!
Yes and no. “Smart countermeasures” are thing but not in the game atm and we do not know how they’d with gaijin’s modelling.
On the other hand they can introduce those with reduced capacity and I wouldn’t mind that for the sake of gameplay, but I don’t how others would react to that when their favored toys get that treatment.
As for radar, it needs an urgent flx for sure. But it is still somewhat workable with narrow scan.
React? It’s already happening.
Magic 2, MICA EM, DM-53, Brimstone and SRAM it’s all nerfed or changed for gameplay purposes.
French mains are dumping bug reports now that MICAS range should be equal to an Aim 120…
But if Gaijin do that and give France 8 of the best long range and short range missiles it breaks the game.
We would need “advanced” flares for protection from the next gen of IR missiles.
It’s terrible the Typhoon Radar is holding the jet back and I feel deliberately
Since the Eurofighters RWR can detect the Pantsir, shouldnt it also get a launch warning from it?
No, because the detection radar is a different frequency than the tracking radar. But there’s a report anyway that Eurofighter should detect tracking radar.
Its RWR can detect both the search and track radar of the Pantsir (its tracking radar only shows as ? tho instead of S1). You do get warned that you are being tracked by said ?, which is the Pantsir but you dont get a warning for the launch, even tho I am pretty sure I got a launch warning from the Pantsir in the AH-64 Peten in the past
isnt it like beam riding or command guided?
Based upon a segment from “Typhoon” by Mike Sutton, the RWR should be able to determine exactly what state the radar is in, so yeah, definetly should be working.
As for it showing up as “?” its not the only thing, with Su-33s doing the same. Hopefully will be fixed in one of the next major updates
Pretty sure the tracking radar still give guidance commands to the missile
the ? shenanigans seems like gaijin laziness.
because quite often its new jets that dont show up on older jets’ rwrs
It can be used in manual and automatic modes.
and it has Electro optical guidance/tracking
Yeah, happens all the time, but rather funny when it occurs on a new jet added in the same update as said new jet that shows up as ?
Pretty sure even in these modes, it should still give a warning. The Roland system for example does too
Honestly not sure. Russia are the top when it comes to SHORAD systems
EF can’t even use the most prominent inner wing pylon for something useful. You only might fit drop tanks on it, but in Air RB they’re useless. Short game duration (seriously, this gamemode needs a fix) and EF is comsuming fuel at low rate. You just never need it, so the pylons remain empty. Weak loadout for max BR jet. Thats embarracing, while other planes might go in fully equipped.
Faulty radar. Still just AIM120. Forced empty pylons. Looks almost like if they wanted the EF beeing overshadowed by Rafale. While everyone expected EF to be op, it turns out the undisputed star of last update is the Rafale with its extensive loadout and the op radar + mica combo. Also FM wise and in Ground Forces, it has by far superior loadout vs ground. EF has no chance. Everyone grinding Rafale now and EF is biting dust along the road of fail.
Imho F-4F Ice radar + AIM120 feels more reliable than EF + 120’ties.
While yes the EF does need it’s radar fixed its not bad, in my opinion it’s better than rafale at most ranges, if you get into a merge you will kill the rafale, no matter the altitude but you need to merge properly, not leave a 3 km gap so he can fire a mica.
What did you expect? AIM120 is already the best ammram in game for long ranges.
The rafale just doesn’t have the better FM right now, if it gets the better FM then it will be better than the EF, especially at low alt and closer ranges.
I have seen a rafale get max 3 kills with the hammers, they are not that great: slow as hell and fall in a very predictable manner to be intercepted by spaa, kh are still 2x times better.
The eurofighter in GRB has many ways to be played, i CAS’d a lot in the EF already and while yes not as good as a su34 the EF can and will influence a game more than the su, especially because you can cap while cas
Legacy in game Radars are definitely superior to the new Typhoon Radar (which i believe is a balancing decision) orherwise it would have been fixed.
You give Typhoon 8 120s and the 2nd/3rd best radar in game you invalidate the F-15s whos one party trick is to fly high and shoot off 120s.
The same with the Rafale it has 8 short/medium range missiles. Even though the Mica should have the range of a 120. It has the best Radar and the best HMD setup. This is to make it the new short/medium range king.
Typhoon sits in between being able to do both but not very good at either. The Radar requires a hard lock to ensure you are locking something real.
The Aim9M is great but short range and easilly flarable now. Brimstone is fun but challenging to use. Maps can really impact Brimstone (cities are not your friend)
Its performance from stated engine power and top speed is deliberately refuted to keep it within the realms of the game.
IRST (not on the German jet) isnt modelled or working and has it’s range again deliberately restricted.
I dont expect any fixes to Typhoon, i think we will have to wait until March when Russia/US receive their new top tier jets.
That’s interesting because you do better in the EFT than the F-4 ICE.
Cause I use them mainly in Ground RB, getting shot by Pantsirs and Strelas almost every match. Tried hard on these Brimstones, without much success obviously.
Edit: This applies for most planes. Air RB is no gamemode I play, except just for unlocking mods and for powergrinding new jets. All stats you see are mainly GRB and there you rarely survive in a plane. Powerful AA systems and especially freshly spawning in planes with energy advantage (props) kill you almost always…sooner or later. Often I also just crash into the ground to resapwn in a tank when Ordnance was spent. So just adding some context. I obviously don’t care for stats.
Then why should anyone take your opinions on the air to air capabilities of an aircraft seriously? I saw your takes on the “bring back multipathing” thread as well. Its wild…
