Eurofighter Typhoon - Germany's Best Fighter Jet

[Jεcka]

Preach. Using the CAPTOR is like trying to wrestle a Grizzly bear barehanded and while starved. I’ve watched a tech mod play both the Rafale and the EFT back-to-back, and the ease with which RBE2 allows the Rafale to operate, in comparison to how much of a hassle CAPTOR currently is, made me want to quit playing ARB until Gaijin actually does something about EFTs radar.

Like, he went 6:0 in the Rafale, and then 1:1 in the EFT, just because the former’s radar doesn’t require you to spend half the match trying to get it to work properly.

[Morvran]

Also, I dont know why, but MICA are virtually unnotchable within about 10km. AMRAAM seem very easy to notch in comparison. I have no issue dealing with a Typhoon, but if a Rafale gets that close I have no chance of survival.

[C0lander]

@luque13

Missile instead of looking for an aircraft signature looks for jammer emissions and guides the missile to the source of the jamming.

DECM doesn’t jam azimuth, but distance.

@Smin1080p_WT

Additional MICAs and HMD that was tested on F.3R standard airframes are possible to include in the Rafales loadout

Well, F3R (in game its even older F3) doesn’t have HMD integrated, unlike +Eurofighter who is PIRATE ready and is installed as necessary (RedFlag Alaska 2012).

@Smin1080p_WT

Standard Luftwaffe Eurofighters do not have IRST. This is one of the key distinguishing visual features between them.

Standard French Rafales <=F3R don’t have HMDs.

@Smin1080p_WT

Germany has more than its equal share of this rule too. AIM-9M was not even tested for example on German EFTs, but they were added too for the German version based on feedback by some of the same individuals here now complaining.

Yeah, IRIS-T entered service with EF T1 (the one we have in game).
Thx for “helping” GER mains, instead of giving them what they’re due and that’s IRIS-T.

@Smin1080p_WT

Plus you can also compare this number to the few test airframes that do. Something like 130-140 without it to 2-3 with it.

Can you show French op. Rafale sqn. whos pilots fly HMDs?

@Smin1080p_WT

This is the version of the aircraft Germany uses, as they use it. We have not “worsened” it in that regard, this is how the Luftwaffe chose to operate their frontline aircraft.

Well, French Rafales don’t use HMDs and yet, the guy even got DL, which not all French Rafales have.
Also, outta 160 (or so Rafales) French have AESA on 20 of them. Let’s see how you’ll defend AESA being installed in Rafale…

Cmon man, you’re trying to defend indefensible.
Clearly you (GJ) run a different set of rules for GER and for the others.

[Dontkev-psn]

Guys, wanna know something?
The F-4F ICE has an better radar than the Eurofighter xD

[THEPolishThunder]

okau

[WreckingAres283]

@C0lander

Well, F3R (in game its even older F3)

We do have the F.3R in-game. (Don’t ask me why its not “F.3R” in the TT)

@C0lander

Can you show French op. Rafale sqn. whos pilots fly HMDs?

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Well, French Rafales don’t use HMDs and yet,

Export F.3Rs already have HMCS integrated by Custumer preverences. French ones were tested; HMCS fully integrated and operated with F.4.1:

Spoiler

I won’t even go into the rest…

[C0lander]

@WreckingAres283

Export F.3Rs already have HMCS integrated by Custumer preverences.

Yeah, except it’s not Rafale C (AdlA), but Rafale EQ and EH that fly in Quatar and India.
Luftwaffe’s EF OTOH is PIRATE ready.

@WreckingAres283

I won’t even go into the rest…

Oh cool. The pilot inside clearly wears French flying uniform, right?
Why don’t you show the entire plane?
OTOH, I can show you the Lw’s entire plane with the PIRATE and the Lw’s pilot inside, in Lw’s uniform.
The only “problem” is the plane is registered in Manching.

Let me put it this way, Luftwaffe has more PIRATEs in the stock then the AdlA has RBE2 AAs, altogether.

[BagelIsMyWaifu]

@Smin1080p_WT

Data Adaptive Scanning (Priority Track) - This functionality currently does not exist in game yet, however the devs will review the data further.

@Smin1080p_WT
Dont the ESA radars have a similar mechanic? Can this be adapted for the CAPTOR?

Additionally, is there any consideration in giving the German Eurofighter some unique advantage to offset their unique disadvantages (of lacking both PIRATE and LWS)
For example the laser guided Sidewinders or the HOSBO bomb?

[Kmdo_Peach]

Very good points in your last 2 posts here, unfortunately they are falling on the mods Deaf Ears.
Won’t add IRST to EF cause it didn’t use it *on most crafts (lol).
Added MICA and HMD to Rafale on the incorrect variant, because it could use them
Added British Typhoon with LWS/IRST. because it used them.
Italian has IRST, because it used them on most crafts

Unfortunately, the German EFT is the worst out of the 3 introduced, there is ZERO argument against this, anyone else is coping.

[YeeT_and_Delete]

@Morvran

Also, I dont know why, but MICA are virtually unnotchable within about 10km.

I’m 95% sure that this is due to the MICA’s horrific amount of wobble constantly changing the missile’s AoA.

[C0lander]

@Kmdo_Peach

Added British Typhoon with LWS/IRST. because it used them.

Ofc…

@Kmdo_Peach

Italian has IRST, because it used them on most crafts

That too…

Not all Italian Typhoons from the same sqn. run PIRATE. :D

But hey, GJ made game more “interesting” for the GER, by “embracing differences”.
Still, those differences are always on GER TT’s detriment…somehow :D

[Pheonix_RX01]

Now if only gaijin would do those differences with the gripens, and future vehicles or ignore that for the sake of balance

[Smin1080p_WT]

@BagelIsMyWaifu

For example the laser guided Sidewinders or the HOSBO bomb?

Both have been passed to the devs as suggestions. Its entirely possible in the future. Neither have been ruled out longer term.

[Flame2512]

@C0lander

Not all Italian Typhoons from the same sqn. run PIRATE. :D

Yes British / Italian Block 1 and 2 aircraft did not have PIRATE because it wasn’t ready. But ALL British / Italian Block 1 & 2 aircraft were upgraded to Block 5 standard (which included PIRATE) by 2012.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@C0lander

Ofc…

These are Typhoon F.2s. Not Block 10+ FGRs.

Some F.2s were later upgraded to FGR.4s.

@C0lander

Twin seat T1 or T3.

[C0lander]

@Pheonix_RX01

Now if only gaijin would do those differences with the gripens, and future vehicles or ignore that for the sake of balance

But they already did. :D
Thailand’s Gripen is somehow (euphemism) related to (wait for it) JAPAN and is Japanese TT now!! :D

[Flame2512]

@Smin1080p_WT

Some F.2s were later upgraded to FGR.4s.

In fact just about all of them were (apart from maybe 1 or 2 that got retired).

[C0lander]

I’m not saying you should remove PIRATE from UK Typhoon.
I’m saying if you gave French HMD and datalink, then you SHOULD give EF2000 PIRATE as well.
Btw, just beacuse there’s no pictures it doesn’t mean Lw’s EFs didn’t use PIRATE on RedFlag 2012.

[Morvran]

Paveway IVs, Brismtones and Aim-9Ms werent enough?

[Smin1080p_WT]

@C0lander

I’m not saying you should remove PIRATE from UK Typhoon.

No you were just saying that British and Italian Typhoons also did not always have IRST too. That would be correct for some (T.1, F.2, T.3 and Block 1 & 2 Italians) just not the variants in game however.