So I know many people have asked this before. But I want to ask again. Do you think the market place should come to consoles? Do you think discounts should arrive at the same time on all platforms? Do you think all the PC perks should come to consoles too?
I say they should. I know for eg. Sorry/Microsoft would probably take some % from each purchase but it won’t be a huge difference, pc players have been already buying and enjoying the perks of the game and all the items off the market ever since the market was a thing and on addition console players would be spending their money too. Discriminating and pointing the finger at Sony/Microsoft is lame, console has been lacking a lot and has been ignored for many years, at least make all the game items half price as it is half a game. That doesn’t seem like a big loss since console players have always spent their money and haven’t got much in return, by changing this I’m sure they would spend even more.
PlayStation and other consoles are left out on this feature. Really do think it’s kinda unfair but it would be awesome to have it on all platforms.
Yes…! But I doubt it’ll happen soon… If it could be done or an agreement could be reached between Gaijin and the console manufacturers it would have happened by now.
This is the kind of problem that gaijin just can’t solve on it’s own. they gotta strongarm Sony and MS somehow, and being two tech monopoly Gaijin is just a fish.
I mean… I’m not exactly saying never, just that it hasn’t happened yet, so I’m just skeptical for the future… But you can lump that into never if you want 🤷
They have to work with MS and Sony to be allowed to have a sale on their platform. They only allow so many sales on their platform and probably have to schedule it well ahead of time. They also are competing with other publishers to get sales out for their games. This is probably why there is a sales difference on the consoles.
Depending on what is needed to allow a secondary market place in their original contract to get the games published on those platforms will dictate how and if that can come in. As it stands right now you can buy GE from the website and not through MS, i think its the same with Sony but i dont know but hopefully it could work something similar. We dont know the ins and outs of what it takes to work with these huge companies to get a game published.
Everyone acts like Gaijin doesnt want to make money by leaving this feature out for console players to spend even more money with them and that is just ridiculous. There is a reason its not available, they may not be able to fully explain to the community what that is, but i am sure they are working on it but it has to be a worth wiled addition. If Sony and MS want 40% cut of any GJC then also a cut of any transaction made in the market for the users, one that would be a lot of money off the table for them, and two would be technically hard as they would have to find a way to integrate the consoles into the market while meeting the requirements of the consoles and separating the purchases of PC and console players to make sure they commissions to MS and Sony are only paid out with the consoles and not the PC users. The easiest way around that is to have a separate market but then all of the older stuff is not there to buy witch will negates alot of the reasons for adding the market.
Its not just an easy on/off button there are hurdles that have to be overcome before it can be made to happen.
they not only take a significant % of the revenue ( Sony takes a 30% cut on games sold on PlayStation, same as Microsoft in 2022, but that might change to 12% in 2025 for MS), but also dictate when sales can happen, any sale go through their departments. Any changes you want to make will have to go through their departments, get approval, etc. There are many contract limits according to sales, which also have to match any Sony/MS sale periods.
Like others have said, introducing these changes would also need to separate from the PC market, as any cross-platform system will be ripe for exploitation/trade-manipulation, which even with the most smart market systems, will undoubtly include more ways to influnce the marketplace.
Gaijin isn’t the only developer that has had this problem, many developers that publish games on Sony and Microsoft platforms can’t include all the monetization features that their PC titles feature. Even if they have similar features, they are often less separated from the non-Sony/MS platforms.
I do, and I would like to play the same game as you on all levels, I don’t want to be discriminated as on what I play. On console we don’t get free GE, we don’t get discounts as many as you do, we pay full price and any purchase and I mean any, is made with real money. Once we buy something we are stuck with it, we can’t trade we can’t sell anything. That is a huge problem, we need some sort of deal that would compensate the handicaps. If we put more money in this game than you lot who play on PC I believe that we should be Respected more.
If anything you should come here defending us not a multimillionaire company who doesn’t even care about any of you either
Stop being so dramatic… " i dont want to be discriminated on " do you play the victim with everything in your life?
Yes i originally played this game on xbox and had it ported over to PC a few months ago when the window opened. When PC players buy something they are stuck with it as well. Unless they buy the coupon and never redeem it and then they can sell it later on the market. PC players dont get free GE. Just because you are on console and spend $50 on a vehicle doesn’t mean pc players haven’t spent more and doesn’t make you a first class citizen compared to others.
I am not defending the company, but i also have enough intelligence to understand how business works and things are not as simple as everyone thinks they are. Maybe you should spend more time trying to understand things, rather than wanting to be a victim and want special treatment
The problem with people these days is always wanting to be treated like a special snowflake and the minute something isn’t to their liking " i’m a victim, im being discriminated against, bias, its everyone else but me".
Hear me out, just release all premiums on consoles to be for sale at all times, past, present and future stay on the game at all times. No retired stuff hidden. Just everything is there. Could not care less about sales being so often or the fact that we don’t get any cool skins/PFP/Titles to be bought through small packs.
And for the PC cry babies that will shout, that will ruin market. Blah blah blah. It won’t because we they aren’t reopening the console account transfer for that exact reason. To Protect your precious market because it took a slight dive when it first happened and everyone panicked.
Thats not true at all. They have opened transfers multiple times. You can lie to make yourself feel better and try to support your false narrative but it doesn’t do anyone any good to make false accusation and conspiracy theories. You cant think the company wants to exclude you from spending money with them on purpose… do you understand how stupid that sounds? What business is like you know what, lets exclude this part of people from giving us more money…why would we want to make more revenue… Sometimes people prove they are not the sharpest tool in the shed and make up for it with being loudest with lies and victim carding.
It’s truly baffling that the devs haven’t created an alternative to the market for consoles. They’re literally ignoring tons and tons of potential revenue, because… they can’t be bothered? It’s so strange.
As for the constant “but MS/Sony take a cut and/or have to approve” comments, that only applies to things sold through the console store (Packs and GE). This is why Pack sales are random, rare, and all over the place, while in-game GE-vehicle sales are always consistent with PC; the devs have full control over in-game sales, and what’s available to buy.
Frankly speaking, if games like Warframe can maintain a player market on console than so could Gaijin - Hell, they do it with CrossOut! The hang-up here is the extra currency that is required but there’s an easy enough solution; Either convert the market system to GE or add in a conversion mechanic to turn GE into GJCN or whatever.
It absolutely can be done and I simply don’t believe anymore that it’s MS or SNY causing any hang-ups, here.