End of 2025, and still no chaffs when stock at top tier

Worked for me in ARB when I was using absolute shitbrick called Su-34.

Anyone not hugging the ground would just get curb stomped by a dozen missiles coming from several different directions.

What do you mean, I am not sure. You say that having a good survival rate without using multipathing is impossible?
If yes, I can tell you that… you are wrong ;)

Su34 is not a pure fighter btw. It’s normal that you struggle if you use it like a normal jet fighter. Take advantage of it’s very good radar (in TWS) instead. When I play this one I also always carry the big FAB to get extra points by dropping it on a base when you can.

Chaff doesn’t do much at low alt since ground clutter fulfils what would have been chaff’s role.

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It’s an issue, but unfortunately just the way it is. I wouldn’t say it’s a big problem, it’s just a necessity of the F2P system.

Chaff isn’t absolutely necessary to notch and defeat a missile, and is not important at lower altitudes especially. Here’s a video on this matter by CatWerfer:

No, notching just doesnt work

A lot of the time it doesnt work because you’re the last alive on your team with enemies coming from 4 different angles, if you’re notching one yeah, its fine, any more and it gets annoying and pointless

I think you’re confusing normal P and PD radars. Only Pulse radars get confused by ground clutter. PD radars do not get confused by ground clutter.

Multipathing is not ground clutter. It’s an “issue” with radars and the way they work.

Mmmm, no you just clearly don’t know how to notch. If you knew you wouldn’t be saying that. I’ve notched countless times both in ARB and ASB.

That’s honestly just a bad team. Which yes happens most often than not. And notching in that situation is basically impossible.

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PD radars switch to pulse mode when you notch, at high alt chaff gets the radar to lose lock, and at low alt its ground clutter

Not all do, or if all do it it’s not that great of a deal. If it happens you unlock and relock the target. Or just use TWS. Although lately TWS+ has been doing its own magical things but wtv.

I think that’s an F-14 exclusive thing.

no, if your plane has a regular SRC it will switch to SRC instead of SRC PD
it only works if there is no ground clutter in view
i did some quick testing with a friend, i know my game is in russian but it should be understandable for you (СПР ИД = TRK PD; СПР = TRK)


in the last seconds he dropped chaff

This could be THE Number 1 tiger_tank take if the year.

Tell me you haven’t played top tier without telling me

he bombs bases in a tomcat, go figure

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I forgot he bombs in the EFT well after being spaded 😥

Agreed, my playstyle since ARH released has been to position off to the left of my team at ~5500m (about 100m below contrail height in order to remain stealthy) and this means dodging the occasional fox-3 with a well-executed notch, then turning into and above the furball, as seen in this clip, allowing for peak kill potential

Peak ARH Spam

Get out of jail free card, pretty skillless.

Of course, some people will be forced to play at MP height if they for example don’t have chaff (stock) or are in planes that just can’t really contest at high altitudes (ie fox1 vs fox3 that’s not a 27ER)

Another problem can be countermeasure count, as I sure as hell wouldn’t want to contest altitude in a Su-33 with only 48 CMs.

Doesn’t really work within 10-15km, but sure early game with the 20+km launches you’ll be fine with just going cold.

A lot more consistent and applicable to most situations.

Just learn the mechanics of the game.

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It does and is a lot more consistent than multipathing.

Pointless? no

You’re a lot more likely to die to top downs from multiple people than just notching

A prime example is this clip:

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If I was multipathing here, there is absolutely no way I would have survived without at least some damage.
Notching WELL works almost 100% of the time (Some situations you might find your aircraft incapable of reaching the notch angle, for example a 29SMT)